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Re: More Ebay Klingon T-shirts

ngabwI' ([email protected]) [KLI Member] [Hol po'wI']



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven Boozer" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: More Ebay Klingon T-shirts


>> jatlh Paul...
>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=15687&item=3954953924&rd=1
>>
>>Translated "Eat me" as "HISop"

ngevwI'vam vIqeSpu'. (wa'ben, Ebay lo'qu'choH be'nalwI', 'ej DaH loQ vIlo' 
je. )
ngevwI' vISamDI', jatlh wepvam :<<Sop jIH>>, 'ej mughlu'law': "Eat me". loQ 
jIHagh, ghIq vIrI', vIlughmoHmeH, 'ej ghaytan mu'vam yajchu'be' tlhIngan 'e' 
vIqeSmeH. wuqta', rIntaH.

I was the "consultant" on these shirts. (My wife caught EBay fever last 
year, and I'm afraid I've contracted a milder form of the bug.)
When I found this seller, he was selling shirts that read {Sop jIH}, 
translated as "Eat me". After I stopped chuckling, I dropped him a line, and 
corrected him, also adding that this would probably only be taken literally. 
This is the shirt he went with.

>> taH Paul...
>>Translated "Kiss me, I'm Klingon" to "wuSDu'wIjDaq wuSlIj tIlan, tlhIngan
>>jIH" (seller says the literal translation is "Place your lips on mine")
>
> jang Voragh:
> It is, save for the inconsistent use of the plural {-Du'} suffix.  The
> seller probably omitted it on {wuSlIj} because the prefix {tI-} requires a
> plural object, making the plural suffix redundant.  Whoever did these knew
> their Klingon...

jIquv. }}: D

<southern>Wah, thanky sah!</southern> }}: D

"Kiss me, I'm Klingon" vImugh neH ngevwI'vam. "Kiss" 'oSbogh mu''e' 
wIHutlhmo', ghaHvaD *Radio Times pab* vIngu', mIw Del 'e' vIchup, 'ej latlh 
nuHmey vInob. wuqta', 'ej bIQ'a'Daq 'oH 'etlh'e'.

The seller asked me for a trans of "Kiss me, I'm Klingon". I told him there 
was no "to kiss", but gave him some options (including the Radio Times canon 
and the description of the action above) and he made his decision from 
there.

bIlughchu'. 'utbe'chu'mo' {-Du'} cha'DIch, vIwoD. nIbmo' meqlIj, meqwIj je, 
jIbelqu'. }}: )

I excluded the second {-Du'} precisely because it is redundant. I'm glad to 
see that I'm thinking like a Grammarian. }}: )

> jatlh Russ Perry:
> While funny to an Earthling like me, I suspect that one wouldn't
> want to REALLY suggest that to a Klingon...  :-)

wepmeyvam vIHev, jIQaHmo'. {HISop} wep vItuQDI', rut mu' vImugh 'e' tlhob 
vay'. jIjatlh: <<tlhIngan Hol lo'lu'taHvIS, "Eat me" 'oS>>.
ghIq Hagh tlhobwI', 'ej jatlh: <<yIqIDQo', nuq 'oS?>> }}: )

I was sent one of each of these shirts for helping with the grammar. When I 
wear the {HISop} shirt out, people will occasionally ask me what it means. I 
say "It's Klingon for 'Eat me'". Then they laugh, and say, "No, really, 
what's it say?". }}: )

> jatlh juDmoS:
> I didn't care so much for those t-shirts as I did for the red ones with 
> the "wave" in white and the
> pIqaD font spelling out qoq...(Coke)... I
> still want to get one of those... waiting for him to post 'em again..
>
> jang DloraH:
> DaH Sutvetlh lutu'lu'.
> 'ach muj pab.
>
> Those shirts are out there now.
> But the grammar is wrong.

lughchu' DloraH. Daqvam yISuch:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=15687&item=3954469367&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

chovnatlh *tIn* neH Del Daqvam. latlh chovnatlhmey DaSammeH, "Click here for 
other sizes" yIchu'.

'ej lughqa'chu' DloraH. mujchu' pab. ngevwI' vIlughmoHmeH, cha'logh vIrI', 
'ach janglaw'Qo', 'ej mujtaH pab.
SaHbe'law' ngevwI'. Do'Ha'. pabchugh, vIje'bej. (jIpImlaw' 'ej jaS 
jIQublaw'. qep'a'Daq jIjeSpa', mutuHmoH ngoDvam, 'ach DaH jIHemchu'. latlh 
ghotvaD taQwI' lumojlaH Hoch.) }}: )

DloraH's right. See the EBay link above. It directs you the "Large" size, 
but you can see the rest by clicking on "Click here for other sizes".

And DloraH's right again. The grammar is irretrievably wrong. I've tried to 
offer friendly correction twice, but the seller hasn't answered, and the 
grammar is still wrong. The seller doesn't seem to care. Shame, too. If it 
was correct, I'd definitely buy it. (I've gotten quite a bit of "Geek pride" 
since qep'a'. Everyone is someone else's weirdo.) }}: )

--ngabwI'
jatlh Huch, 'ach bom yuch!
"Money talks, but chocolate sings!"
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