tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Oct 25 14:29:16 2004
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Re: nuq rur mu'tlheghvam
Voragh:
>> >... 'ej vulqanganpu'vaD latlh tu'lu' je:
>> >
>> > Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam soffodiant
>> > "May faulty logic undermine your entire philosophy"
>> >
>> >mu'qaDvam mughlaH'a' vay'?
De'vID:
>A first attempt:
><bImeqHa'qu'mo' paQDI'norghlIj Qaw'lu'jaj>
mughmeH Qatlh'a'? <g>
>However, <paQDI'norgh> "teachings" is not quite the
>same as "philosophy".
Some people have used *{SovQeD} for "philosophy", but this is more
appropriate for philosophy as an object of study rather than a personal
belief system. One could also use {lalDan} "religion" which does have the
benefit of being a comprehensive belief system, but adds a supernatural
element absent from the original. Hmm... maybe just {Hoch ghobmeylIj} "all
your ethics/virtues"?.
>Also, some alternatives for "undermine":
> <Sang> obliterate
> <pej> demolish
> <puy> wreck
> <QIH> damage, cause damage
lay'tel SIvten
>>><undermine> 'oSmeH *QutlhHa'* vIparHa'.
"mis-support" - not bad.
Let's put this together:
Hoch ghobmeylIj QutlhHa'jaj meq ngeb.
May false reason (logic?) undermine all your ethics.
bImeqHa'mo' Hoch ghobmeylIj luQutlhHa'lu'jaj.
Because you mis-reason, may all your ethics be undermined.
Just playing now... we could turn it to - what else? - honor, by using the
honor vocabulary from HolQeD 12.3. E.g. {QaqmoH} "cause to behave in a
falsely honorable manner" (v.), with the example:
muQaqmoHta' veqlargh
Fek'lhr made me behave in a falsely honorable manner (HQ 12.3)
So, using {meq ngeb} "false reason (logic?):
DuQaqmoHjaj meq ngeb.
May false reason make-you-behave-in-a-falsely-honorable-manner.
In the case of a Klingon insulting a Vulcan, we could turn it around with
the noun {DavHam} "false honor":
DumeqHa'jaj DavHamlIj.
May your false honor cause you to mis-reason.
And for a more Vulcan curse:
DumeqHa'jaj meq ngeb.
May false reason cause you to mis-reason.
I wonder... can reason/logic be faulty (i.e. malfunction)? If so, then:
DumeqHa'jaj QapHa'bogh meqlIj.
May your faulty (malfunctioning) reason cause you to mis-reason.
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons