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Re: taghwI' jIH

David Trimboli ([email protected]) [KLI Member] [Hol po'wI']



From: <[email protected]>

> WM: And a typical direct object of {ja'} would be the person addressed and
>     a typical object of the verb {jatlh} would be the thing you say.
>
> MO: The speech event.
>    (HolQeD 7:4, p 2-12)
>
> So, as we understand it, {jatlh} has a speech event or language or address
or whatever as an
> object, and {ja'} has a person as an object.

That {ja'} takes a person as its object is supposition by Will Martin.
Okrand does not confirm this in the above-quoted passage.  Okrand simply
rephrases Martin's last phrase, "the thing you say."

There are a lot of uses of {ja'} in canon, and not one of them provides an
unambiguous demonstration of the correct object of the word.

I am of the opinion that {ja'} was invented for Kruge's line in Star Trek
III, "Report status!"  If this is the case, {ja'} could refer to something
other than a person as its object (in this case, {Dotlh} "status"), and
whenever we see {ja'} in canon using a prefix that indicates a person as the
object, what is really happening is that the prefix trick is rearing its
ambiguity-causing head.

SuStel
Stardate 4109.2


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