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KLBC: Sun Tzu
- From: "Captain Haddock" <[email protected]>
- Subject: KLBC: Sun Tzu
- Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 00:19:01 +0200
Quvar and 'ISqu',
Thanks for your comments and corrections! As you know it´s difficult to find
the right words but I think your suggestions are better than mine so I
changed chal to muD and tera' to yav. And also the title.
And I´m sorry I forgot to send the english text! Here it comes.
>vagh Dochmey pabqu' veS to', not choH Dochmeyvam.
>{Doch} is the good word if you are talking about real "things", but not
>about "ideas"
What about Qu'? Does it work?
OK! This is half the first chapter of "The Art of War". Who takes the
challange to complete the first chapter? (And the other 12 chapters!) You
can find the text here: http://www.kimsoft.com/polwar1.htm
taHjaj wo'
HaDoq
QojmeH
qon *Sunchu'*
'ay' wa'
nablu'
1. jatlh *Sunchu'*: wo'vaD 'ut QojmeH mIw
2. yIn Hegh ghap wuqlaHbej, yay He, QIH He ghap wIvlaHchu'.
vaj yIqelchu', yIbuSHa'Qo'
3. vagh Qu'mey pabqu' QojmeH mIw, not choH Qu'meyvam.
che'ronDaq Dotlh Daperchu' 'e' DanIDtaHvIS 'ej
bInabtaHvIS, Qu'meyvam tIbuS
4. luperlu': (wa') mIw'a' (cha') muD (wej) yav
(loS) ra'wI' (vagh) nab Sun je
5. nugh rewbe'pu' qumwI' je tay'moHqu' mIw'a'. qumwI'chaj
lulob, Heghqang chaH, 'ej ghIjlaHbe' Qob
6. ram pem je, Hat bIr, Hat tuj je, poHHom poH'a' je 'oS
muD
7.chuq chuq'a' chuqHom je, Qob roj je, yotlh 'och je,
yIn 'eb, Hegh 'eb je ngaS yav
8. mIw'a' yajchu' ra'wI', 'Il, vIDHa', yoH, 'ej moSQo' ghaH
9. mangghom 'ay'meyna' vu'lu'DI', yaSpu'vaD patlh noblu'DI',
mangghomvaD tep ngeHmeH Quv SImlu'DI', QI' Huch malja'
Huqchu'DI', nab Sun je qellu'bej
10. vagh qechmeyvam yajnISchu' Hoch Sa'. Sovchugh Sa',
Qapbej Sa'. Sovbe'chugh Sa', lujbej Sa'
11. vaj, QI' Dotlh DanoHmeH ghu' DachovDI', cha' ghol
tIqIm 'ej yIghel'egh:
(a) cha' che'wI'pu' DaqelDI', mIw'a' ghajqu' 'Iv?
(b) cha' Sa'pu' DaqelDI', laH nIv ghaj 'Iv?
(c) wa''e' luQaHbogh Cej luQanbogh muD yav je yIngu'!
(d) nuq 'ay'mey Sun HochHom ghaj?
(e) nuq mangghom nIv law' Hoch nIv puS?
(f) nuq 'ay'mey yaSmey negh je qeqchu'?
Chapter I.
LAYING PLANS
1. Sun Tzu said: The art of war is of vital importance to the State.
2. It is a matter of life and death, a road either to safety or to ruin.
Hence it is a subject of inquiry which can on no account be neglected.
3. The art of war, then, is governed by five constant factors, to be taken
into account in one's deliberations, when seeking to determine the
conditions obtaining in the field.
4. These are: (1) The Moral Law; (2) Heaven; (3) Earth; (4) The Commander;
(5) Method and discipline.
[It appears from what follows that Sun Tzu means by "Moral Law" a principle
of harmony, not unlike the Tao of Lao Tzu in its moral aspect. One might be
tempted to render it by "morale," were it not considered as an attribute of
the ruler in ss. 13.]
5. The MORAL LAW causes the people to be in complete accord with their
ruler, so that they will follow him regardless of their lives, undismayed by
any danger.
6. HEAVEN signifies night and day, cold and heat, times and seasons.
[The commentators, I think, make an unnecessary mystery of two words here.
Meng Shih refers to "the hard and the soft, waxing and waning" of Heaven.
Wang Hsi, however, may be right in saying that what is meant is "the general
economy of Heaven," includi ng the five elements, the four seasons, wind and
clouds, and other phenomena.]
7. EARTH comprises distances, great and small; danger and security; open
ground and narrow passes; the chances of life and death.
8. The COMMANDER stands for the virtues of wisdom, sincerely, benevolence,
courage and strictness.
9. By METHOD AND DISCIPLINE are to be understood the marshaling of the army
in its proper subdivisions, the graduations of rank among the officers, the
maintenance of roads by which supplies may reach the army, and the control
of military expenditu re.
10. These five heads should be familiar to every general: he who knows them
will be victorious; he who knows them not will fail.
11. Therefore, in your deliberations, when seeking to determine the military
conditions, let them be made the basis of a comparison, in this wise: --
(a) Which of the two sovereigns is imbued with the Moral law?
(b) Which of the two generals has most ability?
(c) With whom lie the advantages derived from Heaven and Earth?
(d) On which side is discipline most rigorously enforced?
(e) Which army is stronger?
(f) On which side are officers and men more highly trained?
(g) In which army is there the greater constancy both in reward and
punishment?
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