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DaH -moH vIyaj 'e' vIQub



I got what you're trying to say, mulwI'!  qatlho'!  I understand now that verbs that are descriptive (have the word "be" in front of the definition) and end in -ed can become regular verbs (eliminate the "be" and take off the -ed) with the use of -moH.  But -moH is trickier than it appears.  Adding -moH to verbs that are descriptive but do not end in -ed, well sir, you have a bit of a different situation.  In that case, the subject causes the object to be that description; the subject does NOT do the description.  In addition, adding 
-moH to a verb that is not a descriptive verb (does not have "be" in front), you can translate that into English as more of a "he made, she made, I made, etc." deal.  I think I got it!  Thanks, Warriors!  Now, did I miss anything about -moH?  Am I right so far?  :)

Janna_Roslöf <[email protected]> wrote:
jIjatlh:
> "be pleased" {bel} + {-moH} = "please" {belmoH}
> and it looks like you've also figured out there's a rule saying
> "be V-d" + {-moH} = "V".

jatlh Holtej:
> Not necessarily. This is what I was trying to express in my earlier 
> message. For some words in English there is a "V" form for the "be V-d" + 
> {-moH} case. So, "be pleased" + {-moH} = "please". But not always. "be 
> early" + {-moH} != "early". "be late" + {-moH} != "late" but "be late" + 
> {-moH} = "delay".

But then again, "late" and "early" don't end in a "d", either. I said
"V-d" to clarify that it should be [enter correct grammatical term
here]. (Maybe I should've said "V-ed", btw.) A certain form of a transitive
verb, usually ending in "d". Like "pleased", "bored" etc. I don't know what
it's called in English.

I guess my point was that when there's a "V-ed", there is also a "V"
(otherwise there wouldn't be a V-ed, either). And you can translate "V"
into Klingon by adding {-moH} to the Klingon equivalent of "V-ed".

I hope I was able to make some more sense this time. }}:-)

mulwI'

Klingon Warrior
taHjaj wo'!




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