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RE: Canon: choH, tagh -- KLBG



What does transitive and non transitive mean?


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#From: cheesbro@rpa.net [mailto:cheesbro@rpa.net] 
#Sent: Wednesday, 25 September 2002 2:39 AM
#To: tlhIngan-Hol@kli.org
#Subject: Re: Canon: choH, tagh
#
#
#> >Is there any canon or concensus regarding the transitivity 
#of {choH} 
#> >and {tagh}?
#>
#>  II (verb) "begin a process, initiate".
#> 
#> Qu' DataghDI' 'aqtu' mellota' je yIqaw
#> When you begin a mission, remember Aktuh and Mellota; 
#> 
#> tagh mu'qaD veS
#> Curse-warfare has begun.
#> 
#> choH (verb) "alter, change":
#>   HIvHe yIchoHmoH! Alter the attack course
#>   HoS choHwI' n. transtator (="thing which does change energy")
#>   woj choHwI' n. reactor (="thing which does change radiation")
#> 
#> I think it's very obvious that both are transitive verbs.
#
#oh?
#
#>   HIvHe yIchoHmoH!   Alter the attack course
#This is not transitive.
#
#> tagh mu'qaD veS   Curse-warfare has begun.
#This is not transitive.
#
#
#I don't remember hearing anything about tagh, but I have a 
#memory of MO telling 
#us that choH works both transitively and intransitively.  I 
#don't remember the 
#source, it might have been on the news group.  I was working 
#on ghIlghameS at 
#the time and wanted to use that word but couldn't rememeber 
#which way it worked 
#and I remember we concluded it worked both ways.  If MO didn't 
#tell us, then 
#maybe we drew this conclusion from the canon cited above.
#
#With the words that work both ways, AFAIK there are no rules 
#telling when to 
#use it which way.
#
#
#DloraH, BG
#



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