tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Fri Aug 23 09:29:00 2002
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Re: KBLC: tlhingan <limerick>
lab Voragh:
>ghel tulwI':
>> >> quv'eghmoH quvmoHbe'lu',
>>>
>>> doesn't this have to be "quvmoH'egh"? :)
>
>jang DloraH:
>>-'egh is a type 1, -moH is a type 4.
>
>Funny he should ask. Okrand discussed this very verb on st.klingon (11/97):
>
> Maltz reports having heard both {quv'eghmoH} "he/she honors him/herself",
> which follows the expected order (verb-Type 1-Type 4: {quv} "be honored",
> {-'egh} "oneself", {-moH} "cause") as well as the weird {quvmoH'egh}
> "he/she honors him/herself", in which the Type 1 suffix {-'egh} "oneself"
> follows the Type 4 suffix {-moH} "cause", an impossible formation unless
> the speaker is considering the verb to be {quvmoH} "honor" and not {quv}
> "be honored". Speakers who do this seem to be aware that they are breaking
> the rules, so they are doing it for rhetorical effect. (It has the same
> sort of feeling, perhaps, as if someone were to say in English "Don't
> cellular phone me this afternoon" or "I've been postnasal dripping all
> morning" or "It's lightninging and thundering outside" or, to follow the
> Klingon example, "He/she self-honors".)
thank you, Voragh. i really thought of "quvmoH" as one entity, that
would have to be followed by "-'egh". i thought this way because
"quv'egh" wouldn't have sence, as "quv" isn't transitive.
tulwI',
sts.