tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Fri Mar 02 06:58:29 2001

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re: KLBC: first post

I wanted to respond to this, but saw the KLBC and saw that taD, the BG had 
not responded yet, and then saw that someone else already HAS responded to 
part of it (the part about the word {vIgro'}.

For a first post, this is really good. I'll just toss a couple hints about 
that second sentence.

In that second sentence {-mo'} could either be a noun Type 5 suffix moved 
from {pab} to the trailing adjective, {Huj} (in which case, go back and 
read about where nouns with Type 5 suffixes belong in a sentence), or it 
could be a verb Type 9 suffix (in which case you should look at the word 
order again, since subjects trail verbs).

In any case, as a beginner, it is always a good idea to post your intended 
message in English as well as Klingon so the BG can tell if you have 
succeeded in saying what you mean. This is so much kinder than saying 
something in Klingon and asking the BG, "Can you understand what I said?"

Your message is a case in point, since you have clearly made a mistake, but 
depending on what you meant, it would be one of two different mistakes. The 
English translation would have made it clear which error you made. Did you 
mean, "I'm frustrated because of strange grammar," or "I am frustrated 
because the grammar is strange,"?

Once you become confident that you can speak in Klingon such that you are 
using this list for its second mission (to say anything you want, so long 
as it is spoken in Klingon), you won't need to provide English translations 
any more, but whenever you want others to correct you, realize that the 
task is much easier and successful if you provide a translation. Maybe you 
have perfectly said something you did not intend to say. We won't know if 
you don't profide the translation. Maybe there is a better way to say what 
you said. Again, we won't know that until you provide a translation.

SarrIS

> From: "Paul K McIntosh" <[email protected]>
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:21:56 -0500
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> ghItlhwI' 'oH pongwIj'e'.  jImogh pab Hujmo'. qub pabwIj.
> choyajlaH'a' ?
>
> I read on the FAQ that grammer isn't really supposed to be corrected in
> KLBC, but I would like to know if whoever reads this can understand any
> of it. If you can, please let me know where any mistakes are. (This is
> the first time I've actually tried to write more than a couple of words
> in Klingon, and the grammer has been almost impossible for me to figure
> out.) Also, I saw the word   vIghro'  in a post and couldn't find it in
> the KD. What does it mean?
>

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