tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Apr 25 01:25:11 2001
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Okrandomania
- From: Nick Nicholas <[email protected]>
- Subject: Okrandomania
- Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 01:10:34 -0700
In only the latest of the manifold blow-ups on the list :-) , it was said:
>If peHruS wrote lots of words on papers and MO requested to see them, why
>should anyone blast him? We all have been waiting for anything MO gives us,
>right? Do you all refrain from talking with MO when he attends conferences
>just to avoid possibly influencing what he might provide? I bet not.
Well, as those at the last qep'a' may have noticed, that's precisely what I
did. When I got the matlh jupna' Dotlh (a Dotlh I doubt I've merited, but
my complexes are hardly you folks' concern :-) ), I thought a bit, dumped
the word I picked at Okrand with *no* priming and no discussion (precisely
because I knew --- and we agreed --- that the choice of word really threw
things wide open for him), and fled. I did not want to influence him in any
way; I felt that would be overstepping. (I think I noticed Okrand was
rather puzzled that I fled, too.)
It's odd; those who were reading the list in '94 will remember how annoyed
I was at Okrand for not being an activist member of the Klingon language
community, the way Zamenhof was in his, or Schleyer, or De Beaufront, or De
Wahl, or LeChevalier. (Well, OK, maybe not LeChevalier. :-) Not even De
Wahl, come to think of it...) I don't whether it's because I've mellowed
with age; because I've reflected better on past models (Zamenhof was
himself pretty humble about running the language --- too humble to avoid
the Ido schism, as it turned out); whether it's because I've actually met
the man and talked to him as human to human; because KGT came out and gave
us much more vocab than we could ever have expected; or whatever. But I do
know I respect Okrand enough now not to badger him...
Actually, ghunchu'wI''s response says it more articulately:
>bISuDDI' loQ bIluj. ja'chuqtaHvIS ghaH latlh je, Hojbej Holvam SaHbogh
>HochHom. ghaH wIyu'bej, 'ach wISIghbe'meH wIyepchu'. chenbe'pu'bogh
>Hol qechmey wIbuSHa'. poQmeH DIb bajnISlu'.
'ej qelchu'meH, nISlu'be'taHvIS, DIb'e' bajba' ghaH. nIteb Hol chIjjaj;
jaS, Duj ngaDHa', wIghovQo'bogh, mojlaH Holmaj.
(Btw, as you'll not be surprised to hear, the kinds of cousinhood Okrand
came up with for my request are not that rare in human societies; Cultural
Anthropology 101 texts online reveal as much. tey' are parallel cousins,
lor cross-cousins. Around Kurdistan, for example, lorpu' typically marry,
but tey'pu' cannot.)
Nick Nicholas [Stephen] King published _The Green Mile_ as
Associate Researcher the first serialized novel since the 1920s,
Thesaurus Linguae in a gesture that was meant to recall the
Graecae, University of serial work of Dickens. No doubt, King is the
California, Irvine Dickens this century deserves.
[email protected] -- Richard von Busack, _Metro Santa Cruz_,
www.opoudjis.net Dec. 8-15 1999, p. 29.