tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Nov 20 15:15:58 2000
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Re: Canon
- From: Steven Boozer <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: Canon
- Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 17:15:20 -0600
This is a *slightly* revised version of a post which escaped before I had
properly proof-read it. (Thanks De'vID for calling this to my attention) --
Voragh
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ghaHbe'wI' asked:
: I don't remember who, but somebody posted that these sentences were
: cannonical and that they appeared in KGT:
:
: {bIr, chuch rur}
: "it is cold, like ice"
Nowhere in KGT that that I can find, though it seems fine to me.
Another simile - {bIr; bortaS rur} "cold as revenge" - does appear in the KGT
list (p.127 ff.). This, of course, derives from the well-known proverb:
bortaS bIr jablu'DI' reH QaQqu' nay'.
Revenge is a dish best served cold. [TKD 171; TKW 133]
We also have an idiom mentioning {'Iw HIq bIr}:
latlh HIvje'Daq 'Iw HIq bIr yIqang!
Pour the cold bloodwine into another glass!
[idiom: "I don't believe you; maybe someone else will" or
"That is irrelevant to me; maybe someone else will care"] KGT
Cultural note: bloodwine is served hot, or at least warm - in one DS9 episode
a Klingon warrior was served cold bloodwine in Quark's bar, which he threw on
the floor in disgust and nearly assaulted the Ferengi bartender - which no
doubt inspired your second query:
: {tuj, 'Iw HIq rur}
: "hot as bloodwine"
which also AFAIK does not appear in KGT. Oddly, there's no common simile for
{tuj} on the KGT list. We do, however, have two references in the proverbs to
{qul tuj} "hot fire":
reH latlh qabDaq qul tuj law' Hoch tuj puS.
The fire is always hotter on someone else's face. PK
tujpa' qul pub SuvwI' 'Iw
A warrior's blood boils before the fire is hot.
["This proverb suggests that it is better to take the initiative than to simply
react to situations. Blood, the controller, does not need an external influence
in order to heat up; one need not draw strength from the outside." (TKW 32)]
as well as one reference to {'Iw tuj}:
bIrchugh qIvon tuj 'Iw
If the qIvon is cold, the blood is hot.
["It probably means something like 'Even though some parts of the body may be
cold, a Klingon's blood is hot'--that is, he is ready for battle." (TKW 174)]
implying that {tuj; qul rur} and {tuj; 'Iw rur} would probably also be
accepted.
: I don't find them in KGT. Does anybody know where do these sentences appear?
: Are they cannonical?
No idea who coined them. They're not canonical, but they are grammatical and
probably quite acceptable to a Klingon. {bIr; chuch rur} is fairly obvious.
The complete list of commonly-used similes (or clichés) appears on KGT p.
127ff. For those interested, here's the complete list of less-obvious similes
which can't be understood without some knowledge of Klingon culture:
ram; ghIlab ghew rur
trivial as a glob fly
let mInDu'Daj; Separmey rur
Her eyes are hard; they resemble separ
[Her eyes are as hard as separ-stones.]
HoSghaj; mupwI' rur
powerful as a hammer
bIr; bortaS rur
cold as revenge
puj; bIQ rur
weak as water
HoS; 'Iw rur
strong as blood
'oj; bomwI' rur
thirsty as a singer
ghung; qagh rur
hungry as gagh
jeD; ghevI' rur
thick as qagh sauce
mIgh; molor rur
evil as Molor
ngo'; QI'tu' rur
old as Qui'Tu
qan; QI'tu' rur
He/she is as old as Qui'Tu.
qej; veqlargh rur
mean as Fek'lhr
quvHa'; ghe'tor ngan rur
dishonored as an inhabitant of Gre'thor
wov; ghI'boj Sech rur
bright as the Torch of G'boj
jej; Daqtagh rur
sharp as a d'k tahg
jejHa'; naH taj rur
dull as a vegetable knife
lo'laHbe'; chetvI' chIm rur
worthless as an empty torpedo tube
yuD; jey'naS rur
dishonest as a double-headed ax
yuDHa'; ghIt rur
honest as an ax head (or, honest as an open hand)
Dogh; tIghla' rur
foolish as a t'gla
tlhIb; toppa' rur
incompetent as a topah
tIb; tI'qa' vIghro' rur
nervous as a tika cat [sic! typo for {bIt}, p. 132]
tun; reghuluS 'Iwghargh rur
soft as a Regulan bloodworm
tlhab; ngem Ha'DIbaH rur
free (independent) as a forest animal
'up; yIH rur
disgusting as a tribble
matlhHa'; romuluSngan rur
disloyal as a Romulan
qur; verengan rur
greedy as a Ferengi
wIH; Hur'Iqngan rur
ruthless as a Hur'q
Hoj; tera'ngan rur
cautious as a Terran
Hem; tlhIngan rur
proud as a Klingon
nong; vulqangan rur
passionate as a Vulcan (ironic!)
tam; Hew rur
quiet as a statue
val; Huy' rur
clever as an eyebrow
lugh; Sor rur
correct as a tree
'IQ; rav rur
sad as a floor
Sagh; Ho''oy' rur
serious as a toothache
boch; ghIch rur
shiny as a nose
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons