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placement of conjunctions



jatlh Qov:
: Once we did not know how to "and" three items. Was it simply "A B C je"
: or did that fence curve in an unexpected direction?

Some had postulated - wrongly as we now know - *{A B je C je}.

QInteS:
} De'vam vIghajbe'.  nuqDaq vISamlaH? HolQeDDaq 'oHtaH'a' De'vam'e'?

Qov:
: De'vetlh 'ang Skybox card.  mI' vISovbe'.  wej DIpmey rar Okrand.  wa' 
: /je/ lo'.

It was slipped into the copyright notice on the SkyBox cards, which Okrand
had also translated into Klingon:

  TM, R c. je tera' DIS wa'-Hut-Hut-loS. 
  TM, R c. 1994 Paramount Pictures. 

And, in case anyone missed it, he stated explicitly in KGT that WRT to the
conjunctions joining nouns (je, joq, ghap):

  "In standard Klingon grammar, the conjunction follows the last noun
   of the conjoined set; for example, {naQjej 'etlh taj je} ('spear,
   sword, and knife' ...) or {tlhInganpu' romuluSnganpu' ghap} ('either
   Klingons or Romulans') ..."  (p.139)

Other patterns, such as {naQjej 'etlh je taj} or {tlhInganpu' ghap
romuluSnganpu'}, are called "common youthful errors" in KGT.  Fairly
common, as it turns out; even Okrand (I mean, Vixis!) did it in ST5:

  wa' tera'ngan je wa' romuluSngan.
  A Terran and a Romulan.

But it's still an "error" according to prescriptive Klingon grammarians,
like using double negatives in English.


-- 
Voragh                       
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons 


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