tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Tue Jan 11 11:29:41 2000
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Re: The song heard in "Barge of the Dead" (was Re: Klingon Opera)
- From: Jeremy Silver <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: The song heard in "Barge of the Dead" (was Re: Klingon Opera)
- Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:28:54 -0000
- In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
- Organization: mupwi
On 10-Jan-00, [email protected] wrote:
>jatlh ghunchu'wI' 'utlh:
>> An excerpt from Voragh's Notes on Klingon Writing and Literature:
>> > Ej im-ta fey de-ja I...
>> > Ejadahk-so-tas ghoS va Skral byteek
>> > Empa jaj law-moch jaj-push
>> > Jaj Kayless Molor-mIgh Hohk-chew koo!
>> >In English, this is (from "The Way of the Warrior" novel):
>> > And the blood was ankle deep...
>> > And the River Skral ran crimson red
>> > On the day above all days
>> > When Kahless slew evil Molor dead!
>I found a recording of it on the web, so I listened to it while
>keeping in mind the (supposed) meaning of each line. Here is what
>I came up with:
>1: 'ej ngIbDaq vI'DI' SaH 'Iw.
>2: 'ej Doq SoDtaH tlhoS va *Skral bIQtIq 'em pa'.
>3: jaj law' moch jaj puS.
>4: jaj qeylIS molor mIgh HoHchu'qu'.
I did much the same and came up with the following, although my hearing
probably isnt as good. I was mainly thinking in terms of words that might
sound similar to those the actors are likely to mispronounce. e.g. "fey" in
the first line of the subtitles might be anything like vay, vey, veH, vaH
depending on how it could be mispronounced. Throw in artistic licence and
regional variations we get:
'ej ngIbchaj veHDaq Saw' 'Iw
/* and the blood has-depth-of at their ankles boundary.
Weird I know but it was the only way I could think of for having a ovs word
order with Saw' as the verb, 'Iw as the subject and a vaguely understandable
noun clause for the object. Who the 'their' refers to is made clear later,
with qeylIS and molor ending up the only ones standing, maybe.*/
'ej Doqqu' taS ghoSta' SIqral bIQtIq
/* lets chuck some words in to make it sound vaguely right and move swiftly
on.
and the river skral proceded, the solution very red. */
'e'pa' jaj law' Hoch jaj puS
/* ditto, and make sure the word is Hoch for all as per TKD */
jaj qeylIS molor mIgh HoHchu'qu'.
/*this is the only line everyone agrees on*/
It mostly seems like simply chucking the words in like we imagine Paramounts
writers did. Some of it might be worth singing, or even grammatically correct.
Besides the greatest minds on this list have already worked long and hard
trying to make something of this, and given it up as futile.
Regards,
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