tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Jan 05 07:31:51 2000
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Re: Stovocor?
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- Subject: Re: Stovocor?
- Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 10:31:07 -0500 (EST)
Steven Boozer wrote:
> Here's what I can remember off the top of my head...
nachlIj DungDaq ngoDmey law' lutu'lu'! =)
> It's usually spelled Sto-Vo-Kor in the closed captions and is the
> mythological place of the afterlife for the honored Klingon dead. (As we
> recently saw in VOY "Barge of the Dead", the dishonored dead go to Gre'thor
> - {ghe'tor} or {ghe''or} - which is guarded by {veqlargh} Fek'lhr.) AFAIK,
> Okrand has never given us a canonical tlhIngan Hol spelling for Sto-Vo-Kor.
vaj chang'eng bIH "Sto-Vo-Kor" "Gre'thor" je 'e'?
So do "Sto-Vo-Kor" and "Gre'thor" make a pair? A better pair than
<QI'tu'> and <ghe'tor>?
> {QI'tu'} is the Klingon Paradise or Eden. According to Sybok (ST5), it is
> the source of all creation in Klingon mythology. It's the equivalent of
> the Vulcan Sha-Ka-Ree and Romulan Vorta-Vor.
The reason I asked about <ghe'tor> and <QI'tu'>/"Sto-Vo-Kor" is
because I am trying to approximate the terms "Gates of Hell" and
"Gates of Paradise (i.e. Heaven)" in the story of Hakuin (a famous
Japanese Zen master) and the samurai Nobushige. I think that
<ghe'tor lojmItmey> would work. However I am not sure about
<QI'tu' lojmItmey>, since <QI'tu'> isn't a place you go to. On
the other hand if I were to say "Gates of Eden", I think it
would be understood even though Eden is no longer a place one
can go to. And if I said "Gates of Sto-Vo-Kor", well, it seems
odd to me for Sto-Vo-Kor to have a gate.
The KLI has translated parts of the Bible, qar'a'? I am wondering
how similar terms were rendered.
> How {qa'vam}, the Klingon name for planet Genesis, fits into this mythology
> is anyone's guess.
"This spirit"? jISovbe'bej. Perhaps in Klingon mythology creation
emanated from some kind of spirit?
> --
> Voragh
> Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
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