tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Mar 10 23:37:43 1999
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-moH Curiousity {was Re: deep structures}
- From: [email protected]
- Subject: -moH Curiousity {was Re: deep structures}
- Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 02:37:27 EST
In a message dated 3/9/1999 3:10:24 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< I tend to interpret {-moH} more as modifying the meaning of the verb
> >> itself than as reassigning roles of the surrounding nouns.
> >
> >In that case, I think you are just going through some
> >subconscious reassigning of the nouns, because the "change" you
> >describe for the verbs really changes the relationship of those
> >verbs with their related nouns.
>
> You seem to have difficulty with reading {SopmoH} as a verb meaning
> "make eat" without explicitly considering a transformation from the
> {Sop} when {-moH} is added. Does {ghojmoH} have the same problem
> for you?
I don't see it as a problem. It's just the way {-moH} works.
When I see {ghojmoH}, I don't think the word "teach". I think
"cause to learn". The closest English word is "teach", but I see
this as a recognition that to successfully teach is to cause to
learn. I think "teach" is the closest single word to {ghojmoH},
but if it breaks down to subtle shades of meaning, {ghojmoH} is
closer to "cause to learn" than it is to "teach". I think
"teach" is just in the dictionary as a tag to help people look
up "cause to learn". If "teach wasn't there, people would miss
{ghoj} and not think of {ghojmoH}.
>>
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maSuvchuqchoHbe' jay'.
maj.
TKD 4.2.4 states: {-moH} "cause". Adding this suffix to a verb indicates
that the subject is causing a change of condition or causing a new condition
to come into existence."
{tIjwI'ghom vIchenmoH} "I form a boarding party" or "I cause a boarding party
to be formed."
jItlhobnIS. nuq chenmoHlu'? {tIjwI'ghom} 'oH qar'a'? *subject*Hey mojlI'
*direct object* 'e' vIQub, 'ach QIjchu'be' TKD. vImermoH wanI'vam.
peqIm. wot {ghojmoH} *direct object* yIngu'! ghojwI'pu' 'oH'a' pagh tlhIngan
Hol 'oH'a'? ghojwI'pu' ghojmoH'a' ghojmoHwI' pagh tlhIngan Hol ghojmoH'a'
ghojmoHwI'?
peHruS