tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Mar 04 12:23:34 1999
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Re: Aspect
- From: Marc Ruehlaender <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: Aspect
- Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 14:23:31 CST
- In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 04 Mar 1999 11:31:37 -0800
ja' peHruS:
> Why cannot the perfection of the action take place "during" the visiting? If
> it cannot, then Klingon is different from ANY Earth language I have been able
> to discover which uses aspect alone or a combination of aspect, aktionsart,
> and/or tense.
>
this should come as no surprise.
I had a quick (!) glance at Comrie and I think, maybe you are confused
by the fact that what Comrie calles "perfective" verbs and what Okrand
calls "perfective" aspect are not at all the same thing.
the closest to Comrie-"perfective" verbs in Klingon, as far as I can
tell, would be those without type 7 suffixes.
> Finally, how do you render the Klingon sentence meaning "The boy saw the man
> (and that completion of seeing the man occurred during) while the man was
> visiting the woman"?
>
be' SuchtaHvIS loD, loD legh puqloD.
if you really need to be very specific:
loD legh puqloD. 'e' ta' puqloD, be' SuchtaHvIS loD.
(or substitute whatever you find more appropriate for {ta'})
> Still, if I say: {qaStaHvIS vagh jajmey, matlhutlhtaH}, would not the
> Klingon inference be that we drank non-stop day and night until all
> five days had passed?
quite possibly. again, I think
qaStaHvIS vagh jaj, matlhutlh.
does not necesserily mean we drank just once, and if you need to
be more explicit, add {pIj}.
> If this is true, we have not yet settled the problem of "intermittent"
> action.
well, as far as I know, this is the first time you mention this
"problem" in this thread.
Marc Ruehlaender
aka HomDoq
[email protected]