In a message dated 2/18/1999 8:46:59 AM US Mountain Standard Time, aranders@netusa1.net writes: << peHruS, what about my description of {nIn naQ} vs {nIn Hoch} do you not understand or not agree with? I *really* want to help you figure it out, but if all you say is "no" then I don't know how to continue. >> I think you are using Hoch okay. The problem is your definition of naQ. peHruS