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Using {'op}

: {jIvbej 'op nuv} means, "Some people are certainly ignorant." ({'op} is from
: KGT.) Actually, I'm not sure that I'm using {'op} correctly; I'm treating it 
: as though it were a number, the same way {Hoch} is used.

It looks fine to me.  I understood it at once.

That's a question that has been debated before, along with the other quantity
words {HochHom} "most, greater part" and {'ar} "how many, how much".  Is {Hoch}
the model for the others, or is {Hoch} the exception?  

Okrand has used the noun {'op} "some, an unknown or unspecified quantity" just
once, in SkyBox card S7:

  'ej DujvamDaq 'op SuvwI' tu'lu'bogh po' law' tlhIngan yo'
   SuvwI' law' po' puS
  It [IKC Pagh] has ... some of the finest warriors in the
   Klingon fleet. S7

Note he translates {'op SuvwI'} as "some of the warriors", not "some of the
warrior" (i.e. a piece of him).  Perhaps the plural suffix is omitted following
{'op}, or perhaps "some of the warrior" just doesn't make sense in this
particular context.  {'op ghot} should indeed mean "some people".

AFAIK Okrand hasn't commented on whether there's a difference between {'op
chab} and {'op chabmey}.  Does the former mean "some of the pie" (i.e. a
piece), while the latter is "some of the pies" (i.e. 3 pies out of a batch of
10)?  Or do they both mean "some of the pies", with the plural suffix
optional?  (Note that you can also say {chab(mey) puS} "several pies, a few
pies, a handful of pies".  To confuse matters, Okrand has used {puS} both with
and without a plural suffix.)  

Ca'Non Master of the Klingons

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