tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Sat Aug 21 19:21:41 1999
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Re: HIQaH
- From: [email protected] (Christiane Scharf)
- Subject: Re: HIQaH
- Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 04:10:18 +0200
jatlh charghwI':
>On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 06:23:22 +0200 Christiane Scharf
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> jatlh charghwI':
>>
>>
>> >On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:22:22 -0500 Terrence Donnelly
>> ><[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> At 10:50 AM 8/17/99 CDT, Marc wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> {lojmIt} for "door", I don't know what to call the device that
>> >> >> unlocks it. I could coin {ngaQwI'} or {ngaQHa'wI'}, but then
>> >> >> I've violated my design goal of using only simple canon words.
>> >
>> >Perhaps you have overly extended goals. If there is no simple
>> >word for what you want, then you need a description of it. When
>> >I've imagined this, I've considered that the lock is the ngaQwI'
>> >and the key is the ngaQHa'wI' because it is the lock which locks
>> >the door and it is the key that unlocks it.
>>
>> {ngaQ} is "be locked". The thing that locks the door would be a
>> {ngaQmoHwI'}, the thing that unlocks it would be a {ngaQHa'moHwI'}.
>
>The lock does not cause the door to be locked. The lock is
>locked. The door itself is, if you really think about it, never
>locked. It merely won't open. But the lock is definitely the
>thing which is locked.
Huj. I never thought about it this way. Interesting, BUT... we do have an
example to the contrary: {ngaQ lojmIt}, from TKW.
>
>You do have a point about the key, however, since that is the
>thing which causes the lock to be unlocked.
>
>> >But that's just my
>> >own perverse way of looking at it. I'm sure it would not work as
>> >a general use of the words.
>> >
>> >Likely, whatever you use, you need to explicitly explain your
>> >choice of words and explain why you have chosen them in the
>> >absence of something better.
>>
>> qeSchu' charghwI'. ghu' yIDel: SoQtaH lojmIt. poSmoHlaHbe' SuvwI'.
>> poSmoHlaHmeH jan le' SamnIS. janvamvaD {ngaQHa'moHwI'} (maybe even the
>> simpler {SoQHa'moHwI'}?) ponglu'. baS naQHey mach 'oH.
>
>mIwlIj vIparHa', 'ach Hoch *parenthetical suggestion*meylIj
>vIpar.
My "parenthetical suggestions" were just attempts at describing what a key
does. chaq nIvbe', 'ach *key* Qu' luDelchu'.
>ghaytanHa' naQHey 'oH.
qatlh? *key*mey ngo' DaleghDI' tIn bIH 'ej tIq 'e' Datu'. naQmey lururbej.
wa' DopDaq QebHey tu'lu', latlh DopDaq Ho' rurbogh 'ay''e' tu'lu'.
HovqIj