tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Aug 05 07:46:08 1999
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RE: KLBG: extra nouns, locative or what?
- From: Terrence Donnelly <[email protected]>
- Subject: RE: KLBG: extra nouns, locative or what?
- Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 09:43:22 -0500
At 01:32 PM 8/4/99 -0500, pagh wrote wrote:
[...]
>jatlh John:
> ramvam "The Blair Witch Project" vIleghta'
>So, why does the first noun just dangle there? Specifically, why doesn't it
>require a syntactic marker (ramvamDaq ?) to tie it to the rest of the
>clause?
>Most of the "extra" nouns that just dangle at the beginning of a sentence do
>indeed have a type five suffix of some sort, but there are a few exceptions.
>One is that <Dat>, <pa'>, and <naDev> are assumed to have a <-Daq> sort of
>built in. The other big exception - the one you ran into - is for
>timestamps. Klingon does not use a syntactic marker for timestamps; it just
>plops them down at the beginning of the sentence. It is therefore perfectly
>valid to say the following:
>
>DaHjaj jIghung.
>loS ben tlhIngan Hol vIghojchoH.
>nem law' jIqan.
>wa'Hu' ram jIQong.
>
This is certainly true, but I'll just make a comment on style.
>From the examples MO has given us, I think {ramvam} would more likely
be rendered {DaHjaj ram} (as in pagh's last example). {ramvam} to
me would be used for later references to a time already stated, eg.:
wa'Hu' ram *Blair Witch Project* vIlegh, 'ej ramvam jIQongvIpbej.
"I saw BWP last night, and that night was afraid to go to sleep."
-- ter'eS