tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Jul 09 12:54:24 1998
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RE: KLBC: Dap 'ach pab
- From: Steven Boozer <[email protected]>
- Subject: RE: KLBC: Dap 'ach pab
- Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 14:51:54 -0500 (CDT)
: lab Minots:
:
: >Actually, I believe we do. We know {Sov} can have the meaning of "kennen"
: >(to know a person, as opposed to to know a fact) from Conversational
: >Klingon:
: > Qo'noSDaq vay' DaSov'a'?
: > Do you know anyone on Kronos?
: >and
: > ghobe'. Qo'noSDaq vay' vISovbe'.
: > No, I don't know anyone on Kronos.
: [snip]
: >And I'm pretty sure {Sov} also has the meaning of "wissen" (to know a
: >fact) -- there have to be a number of examples. Here's a sample:
: > qama'pu' DIHoH 'e' luSov.
: > They know we kill prisoners.
: >TKD, page 66. Also, the {Sov} in the infamous {naDev jIHtaHbogh vISovbe'}
: >seems to be the "kennen" form.
:
: ngoDna' Daghaqmo' qatlho'. I had forgotten about the CK example - it's been
: several years since I listened to it.
:
: pagh
And here are the rest:
"All four words asked about... can be used in the construction S {'e'} V,
where S is a sentence, {'e'} is the pronoun (that) which refers to a
previous topic (in this case S), and V is one of the verbs listed above (as
well as some others). If the sentence (S) is {tlhIngan Hol Dajatlh} 'you
speak Klingon,' it's OK to say ... {tlhIngan Hol Dajatlh 'e' vISov} 'I know
that you speak Klingon'..." (MO on Expert Forum 7/97)
jISovbe'
I don't know. TKD
qama'pu' DIHoH net Sov
One knows we kill prisoners. TKD
De' Sov qar'a' HoD
De' Sov HoD qar'a'
The captain knows the information, right? TKD
Daq Sovbejbe'taH qerq
Kirk cannot know the location... ST6
DaSovbej'a'?
Are you sure [of that]? ST6
naDev vay' DaSov'a'?
Do you know anyone here? CK
naDev vay' vISovbe'.
I don't know anyone here. CK
lut tlhaQ DaSov'a'?
Do you know any funny stories? PK
DaqwIj vISovbe'.
DaqwIj Sovbe'. [Clipped]
I am lost ("I do not know my location.") PK
De' lI' Sovlu'DI' chaq Do'Ha'.
Knowledge of useful information may be unfortunate. PK
bISovbejbe'DI' tImer.
When in doubt, surprise them. TKW
loS... qIb HeHDaq, 'u' SepmeyDaq Sovbe'lu'bogh lenglu'meH He ghoSlu'bogh
retlhDaq 'oHtaH
It waits... on the edge of the galaxy, beside a passage to unknown regions
of the universe. (SkyBox DSN99)
Voragh "Grammatici certant et adhuc sub judice
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons lis est." - Horace, Ars Poetica