tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Sun Feb 15 10:01:03 1998
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Re: leng SajwIj
- From: "David Trimboli" <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: leng SajwIj
- Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 10:25:20 -0500
From: Andeen, Eric <[email protected]>
>SKI: pagh's pet CAN speak, at least a little bit. One specimen of the
>species can certainly speak and understand English. I've written about
>this before, and won't go into a rant on it again.
Not to try to make you rant again, but I have problems with this
interpretation.
I don't believe the "beings capable of using language" refers to a physical
capacity. If the noun in question can be thought of as a PERSON, of
whatever species, then the noun may be referred to with {ghaH} or {-wI'},
etc. The choice of {'oH} or {ghaH} is not an evaluation by the speaker of
the noun's capacity for language, it is much more general, applied to
particular nouns regularly. Only in the most extreme cases will a Klingon
intentionally go against the norm. A particularly verobse parrot is not
extreme enough.
Suppose a Klingon were talking about a Horta. Would he use {'oH} simply
because the Horta does not (apparently) speak? (Spock also communicated
with a humpback whale telepathically, which to me certainly falls into the
{'oH} category. A Horta is very likely much more intelligent than a whale.
Telepathic communication does not prove {ghaH}ness.)
Parrots are {'oH} whether they speak or not. Whales are {'oH} by any
typical evaluation of their intelligence and society. Hortas are {ghaH}.
Mute humans are {ghaH}. Artificial life-forms which mimic humanoid form are
{ghaH}. Computers and speaking robots are {'oH}.
Here's an extreme case: The Doctor's companion K-9 was an intelligent robot
in the shape of a dog, and it could speak. It would be difficult for a
Klingon to classify such an entity. I would go with {ghaH}. Artificial
life-forms would probably be judged on their capacity for using language
much more specifically than anything else. If K-9 were unable to
communicate with language, he would be {'oH}. Similarly, R2-D2 is {ghaH},
though he does not resemble humanoid form.
And before anyone jumps up and down crying sacrilege and assult, these are
my opinions only.
SuStel
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