In a message dated 12/29/1998 9:01:46 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Sor Hapvo' chen yoD wa'DIch >> I prefer the way Chinese Mandarin expresses "made from": yoD wa'DIch chenmoHlu'meH Sor Hap lo'lu' I see {-vo'} working only for "going away from a location." peHruS