tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Tue Aug 04 08:17:50 1998
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Re: KLBC: a translation attempt
- From: Robyn Stewart <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: KLBC: a translation attempt
- Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 08:11:06 -0700 (PDT)
---K'ryntes <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Okay here goes....
>
> Robyn Stewart wrote:
>
> > SaghojmoHbejbe' 'e' vIHar.
>
> I believe that I certainly don't cause you to learn.
You've pointed out that I wrote a rather stupid sentence, adding to
/-bej/ with /'e' vIHar/. I should have just written
/SaghojmoHbejbe'/. Note that it doesn't mean "I definitely don't cause
you to learn," that would be /SaghojmoHbe'bej/. It mean more like "I
have no definite certainty that I cause you to learn," "I wouldn't say
for sure that I make you learn." And now you see why /'e' vIHar/ was
an especially wittering Terran addition.
> > motlh Sughoj'eghmoH.
> Usually you cause yourselves to learn.
>
> > SatungHa'.
> I encourage you (or is it) I undo your discouragement. Can Ha' be
used > to make a word mean it's opposite or was I more on target with
the
> second sentence?
Marc Okrand is always quite explicit in the "undoing" or "misdoing"
meaning when he explains his sentences, but often the effect, like
here, is the same as the opposite. "I encourage you" would be a better
English translation, even though the Klingon feel is probably closer
to "undo your discouragement."
> > chovnatlhmey vImuch 'ej vay' Qatlh vIQIj.
>
> I explain anything difficult and I present examples.
>
> > bagh neQ vIlo'Qo'.
>
> I don't use ________? Neck ties?
Grin. A spoon. A very new word. And a translation of an English
idiom. I'm being silly.
> > Sughojchugh vaj bota'ta' tlhIH.
>
> If you learn then it is your accomplishment.
Nice translation. When you can cast Klingon verbs to English nouns
like that, I know you can do the reverse for good Klingon. Here
"...then you have accomplished it yourself," works too.
> > > > yuch QaQ law' yol QaQ puS - Chocolate is better than conflict
> > > > (Klingon counterculture hippies). Note how "better" is "more
good
> > > > than."
> > >
> > > I think this is my new favorite saying! :D I might put it on a tee
> > > shirt!
> >
> > yIvbeH DanguvmoHpa' yIbagh. :)
>
> LOL! That would certainly get me beat up on the proverbial "Klingon
> playground"!
'oy' SIQvIpbe' SuvwI''e'
==
Qov - Beginners' Grammarian
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