tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Oct 30 03:33:13 1997
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Re: KBLC: How do you say?
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- Subject: Re: KBLC: How do you say?
- Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 06:33:02 -0500 (EST)
I am not allowed to answer to this, but since I asked exactly the same
question some time ago I'll answer anyway. }}:-)
> In every foreign language I've studied, there was always an expression
for:
> "How do you say ..."
>
> What would this be in Klingon?
>
> chay' jatlh ?
> jatlh chay' ?
>
> Qapla'
> QatanI
My question was:
---> How can I say In Klingon "What does xyz mean?" when I want to know the
meaning of xyz? *xyz* 'oH nuq'e'?
the best answer, I got it from ghunchu'wI':
---> If I wanted to know what an xyz is, I would probably turn the question
around the other way: {nuq 'oH *xyz*'e'}
If you want to find out the translation of xyz, either you can ask
politely {chay' *xyz* vImugh} or you can demand {*xyz* yImugh}.
If you want someone merely to explain the word xyz without translating
it, {*xyz* yIQIj} is approoriate.
nuq 'oH ghargh'e'? --- 'uS Hutlhbogh Ha'DIbaH lang 'oH.
chay' ghargh vImugh? --- "worm" yIjatlh.
"foot" yImugh. --- <qam>
<quch> yIQIj --- boHDajbo' SuqmeH vay' jonlu'.
charghwI' replied to this:
---> nuqjatlh? <<boHDajbo'>> yIQIj!
ghunchu'wI' explained:
---> qamISmoHta' jItlhIj. <voHDajbo'> vIghItlhHa'. nuv jon HeSwI'. nuv
qorDu'vaD Qum. ja' HeSwI': Huch tunobbe'chugh, vaj Hegh nuvvam. nuv
jonlu'ta'bogh tlhabqa'moHmeH Huch 'oH voHDajbo''e'. tev pop joq rur
voHDajbo', 'ach Hat.
Qeygh wrote:
---> I would translate that as "What is *xyz*?". Which could be asking for
a description instead of a definition. Perhaps something like "*xyz* vIyaj
chay' 'e' DaHech?" or "*xyz* vIyaj chay' net Hech?" would be better. The
intent here is "How do you intend that I understand *xyz*?" or "How am I
meant to understand *xyz*?" -- I don't claim to be fluent, so I may have
botched this pretty badly.
That looks correct to me, but unnecessarily complicated. Back in the days
when I had to ask for a definintion of every third word, I said, {chay' *xyz*
vImugh?} - "How do I translate *xyz*".
Qermaq said:
---> [...] Another approach is to use apposition.
tlhIngan HolvaD mu' *xyz* vIjatlh vIneHchugh, nuq vIjatlh?
If I want to say the word xyz in Klingon, what do I say?
Or even more simply -
chay' tlhIngan HolvaD mu' *xyz* vIjatlh?
How do I say the word xyz in Klingon?
Notice that the mu' *xyz* is understood to not be possesion thru context - it
simply would not make sense.
ter'eS answered to this:
---> >Perhaps something like [...] ...it simply would not make sense.
Another alternative I see used often (and which I use myself) is nuq 'oS *X*
a little wordier: *X* mughmeH nuq vIlo'nIS
I hope this helps you and I hope Qov leaves her painstick were it is! }};-)
Qapla' quv je
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