tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Sun Nov 16 10:10:04 1997
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RE: bIQ'a' Doq bIngDaq
ja' "Anthony.Appleyard" <[email protected]>:
> In English a scuba diver can say "dive" = "be underwater" and "descend" for
>"while in the water, go deeper". In Klingon in the above case both alike would
>be {ghIr}, risking unclearness in the middle of fast action commands. After
>c.300 scuba dives I appreciate such things.
If a non-SCUBA-diver hears "dive", he's likely to infer "go down". That's
what I did when you first dropped in the English "dive" in your Klingon
narrative. The unclearness of which you speak has been present since the
very beginning of our discussion! :-)
If you want clearly to say "be underwater", I suggest that you not use the
word "dive" in English either. That should clear up our miscommunication.
> We did not pass (= {juS}) it in straight travel, we turned round it and went
>up the Gulf of Suez for a bit.
vaj 'oHDaq SughoS, tujuS, 'oHvo' SughoStaHvIS "Gulf of Suez"Daq Daleng.
wa' mu' Dalo'taHvIS "to round" DamughlaHchu'be'mo', qech DaQIjqu'nIS.
>It cannot be denied that the vocabulary of TKD
>leans much towards space travel rather than travel on a planet's surface.
nuqjatlh? ngoDqoqvam vItenlaHbej jIH! chaq puS leng Delbogh mu'mey.
logh leng Delbogh mu' law' law' ghor leng Delbogh mu' law' puS 'e' vIleghbe'.
> And re sea and land travel: how do people express the compass directions
>reasonably compactly (north, east, south, west)? They are not in TKD or KGT.
Perhaps Klingon doesn't have compact ways to express these abstract concepts.
Is it the direction which is important, or is it the destination?
We can translate directions numerically: He 000, He 090, He 270, etc.
> What is Klingon for "sun"?
Maybe there isn't one. Maybe there's just a unique name for the big bright
hot circle in the daytime sky of Kronos, and the idea doesn't transfer to
similar big bright hot circles in the daytime sky of the worlds of other
star systems. We've got a similar name for Earth's sun, "Sol", which isn't
used very often. {Qo'noS} is usually called "the homeworld"; perhaps the
name of its sun has fallen completely out of use and it is now just called
"the homestar". We don't know yet.
-- ghunchu'wI'