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Re: I haven't forgotten you





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> From: Kenneth Traft <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: I haven't forgotten you
> Date: Sunday, March 09, 1997 11:52 AM
> 
> >>> Mark Shoulson has been a suprise help.  He seems REALLY to be a nice
guy.
> >Yes - I'd have said the same about d'Armond (well I do), except for some
> >of his recent reaction.  
> 
> Have you read any of his responses.  Besides using "questionable"
grammar,  
> (especially the omission of -Daq).  He's wrong about HOW the list works. 
The 
> BEGINNING grammarian does not usually correct ALL messages and as long as
it 
> isn't KLBC (or obvious beginner's) there should be nothing wrong with US 
> pointing out obvious errors.  People rely on these people to be experts. 
YES 
> when we get in a hurry we make mistakes.  It's only HUMAN.  Unless we
point 
> these out (which other's don't seem to mind on my stuff) people will
think 
> it's OK.
> 
> The man is spiteful, vengful, and has a misplaced sense of "superiority".
 
> I'll admit he's good, but his ego is severly overly inflated (without
good 
> cause I'd estimate.)
> 
> I agree that Glen did some stupid things, but "let him who is without sin
cast 
> the first stone."  This list and other's have run GLEN through the mud. 
And 
> all behind his back because he doesn't have a computer, he isn't privy to
what 
> goes on (something that Holtej can't seem to get through his thick head
even 
> after it was mention over and over again.)  I don't really like being
angry at 
> the man, but he is WAY too caught up in his jealousy and bitterness it's 
> frustrating.
> 
> I would just like to IGNORE him, but you and others seem to think someone
from 
> the ILS should deal with him.  I offered to HELP Glen, not "RUN" the ILS.
 
> I've inherited more work and headaches.  (SIGH) I like Glen and I really
hate 
> to see all his GOOD work lost because he has to make a living in some
remote 
> area of Siberia.  Mostly I feel bad for his wife who is unfortunitely
stuck 
> with it as well.  Maryse is a really nice person and really out of her
league 
> with KLINGON (and sometimes so am I. ) 
> 
> >>>Hope everything is going well with you.  I'm excited about starting my
new 
> job 
> >>>on Monday.
> >I guess I didn't know you had made a switch?  Where?!  Congratulations
and
> >good luck!  IT is just a year for me and I'm *GLAD* I did it!!
> 
> Yeah, I start at SuperValu on Monday -- Technical Analyst is my title. 
They 
> offered me almost $8000 more a year than Electronic Data Systems was
willing 
> to pay me.  Their stupid "Pay per value" policy doesn't work if their 
> management people don't take the time to KNOW what their employees are
doing.  
> Over the last three or four years all the really GOOD people have left
and on 
> the average were offered $8000 to $10,000 above their EDS salary.  I was 
> suckered into the EDS CULTURE for a long time.  Their ideas and
"preaching" 
> are fantastic.  However they don't practice what the preach (at least on
the 
> Account levels.)  Our customer has always supported me and they really
like 
> me.  They are saddened that I left, but they know that it probably the
best 
> for me.  I'd been there almost 10 years (May 17 would have been my 10 yr.

> anniversary.)
> 
> >>>Today was harder than I thought saying goodbye to everyone.  I 
> >>>didn't think I'd be so sad.
> >It can be that.
> 
> I'm really a loner.  But until everyone came for the lunches. (I had four
in 
> the last week.  I didn't know there were so many people who knew me, much
less 
> LIKED me.)  I'm still rather down over it all.  Just got to keep thinking

> OPPORTUNITY!
> 
> Again thanks for your support.  It's nice to see so many people that
stand 
> with Glen -- It may not be OPENLY, but it's there.
>   
> 
> P.S.
> Have you seen the letter from Glen where he addresses the "bad PR".  He's
sent 
> it to most of the ILS people I believe.
> 
> 

Errr....I think you may have miss addressed this.

SuSvaj


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