tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Fri Jun 06 15:23:51 1997
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Re: {mup} KLBC
peHruS writes:
|My feeling is that {mup} may be a glancing blow. Until I saw TKW regarding
|hitting the target, I would have used {mup} for "impacting the target." Now,
|I have seen that MO uses {qIp} here. I'm not sure how to use {mup}.
ghunchu'wI' writes:
|Here's how *I* use them.
|
|{mup} "impact, strike, run into, come into sudden contact with..."
|There's not a lot of intent or volition implied.
|
|{qIp} "hit, beat, bang on, slap, punch, spank..."
|This is an intentional "attack" with a "weapon".
~mark writes:
|Hmm. This sounds not unlike the interpretation I use. My thoughts
|focussed more on {mup} being direct contact and {qIp} using a tool, but the
|results seem much the same.
And finally I write:
Here's my (inevitable) list of citations to consider:
mup impact, strike (v.)
- pay' HIvDI' lo'wI' pagh mupDI' QIHchu' bIH
[They (i.e. the side blades of a Daqtagh)] provide a damaging
surprise attack or give a devastating backhand stroke. SP2
mupwI' hammer (n.)
- mupwI' yI'uchtaH. Keep holding the hammer! TKW
qIp hit (with hand, fist, implement) (v.)
- maqIpchuq we hit each other TKD
- SuqIpchuq you (plural) hit each other TKD
- qIpchuq they hit each other TKD
- peqIpchuq hit each other! TKD
- jIqIp'egh I hit myself. TKD
- bIqIp'egh You hit yourself. TKD
- qIp'egh He hits himself. TKD
- nuqIpvIp They are afraid to hit us. TKD
- qama' vIqIppu' neH I merely hit the prisoner. TKD
- qIppu'bogh yaS the officer who hit him. TKD
- yaS qIppu'bogh the officer whom he hit. TKD
- qIppu'bogh yaS vIlegh I see the officer who hit him. TKD
- mulegh qIppu'bogh yaS The officer who hit him sees me. TKD
- yaS qIppu'bogh vIlegh I see the officer whom he hit. TKD
- mulegh yaS qIppu'bogh The officer whom he hit sees me. TKD
- yaS qIppu' 'e' vIlegh I saw him hit the officers. TKD
- qIpmeH Qatlh'a' Difficult to hit? ST5
- qIp'egh nachDu'chaj tlhIngan SuvwI'pu' Klingon warriors are
butting heads. CK
- yIQeqQo' neH. DoS yIqIp Don't just aim; hit the target! TKW
- tIqIpqu' 'ej nom tIqIp Hit them hard and hit them fast. TKW
[BTW, SuStel, here's another example of 'ej with imperatives.]
-- Voragh