tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Jul 23 08:24:19 1997
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Re: vegh
- From: Marian Schwartz <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: vegh
- Date: 23 Jul 97 11:19:12 EDT
ghItlh voragh latlhpu' je
>>DloraH wrote:
>> This word does NOT work for:
>> The bullet went through his heart.
>> His fist went through the wall.
>> Notice that in these examples the subject physically touches the object;
>> the bullet touched the heart as it went through it.
>> The bird going through an open window doesn't touch anything.
>
>charghwI' wrote:
>> Note that this does mean:
>> A man goes through an open door, a bird goes through an open
>> window or a woman goes through a tunnel.
>> Note that it explicitly does NOT mean:
>> A man's fist goes through a closed door, an arrow goes through a
>> bird's heart or a woman goes through a forest.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>I commented:
>:> I'm puzzled by this last example: does the woman actually "touch" the forest
>:> as she walks through it?
>
>Susvaj replied:
>: I don't think that whether or not the woman touches the trees is the issue.
>
>DloraH--who heard the explanation from Okrand at qep'a'--raised the whole
>issue of touching: {vegh} can not, it seems, be used for "penetrate" or
>"puncture".
>
>.Susvaj again:
>: As for a woman walking through a forest, my
>: impression is that "vegh" can be used here, as the woman is not damaging
>: the forest. Particularly if there is some kind of pre-existing path which
>: she is following.
>
>No. charghwI'--who was also present at qep'a'--tells us this usage is
>specifically NOT allowed which is what puzzled me. Yesterday ghunchu'wI' (as
>leader of the victorious team that requested the word from Okrand) posted
>his own account which considerable clarifies the issue:
Sheesh! We get a new word, and in only a few days, we automatically argue about
its meaning!
Qapla'
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