tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Feb 17 18:32:44 1997
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Re: Once again
R.A. 'Bruno' Rush wrote:
>
> Dear follows,
>
> I sent one message to the list asking how to unsubscribe, since I
> accidentally deleted the introductory message. I hated to interrupt
> your mail with something like this, but I needed to know. Since NO
> ONE has answered me, I have to ask again. How do I unsubscribe?
> Please tell me and I'll be out of your hair.
>
> Bruno
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