tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Aug 13 12:11:08 1997
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Re: To -'e' or Not To -'e'
- From: Marc Ruehlaender <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: To -'e' or Not To -'e'
- Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 14:10:54 CDT
charghwI' wrote:
> So, I strongly suggest that when I say, {charghwI' 'oH
> pongwIj'e'} or {pongwIj 'oH charghwI''e'}, I'm just saying, "My
> name is charghwI'," and "charghwI' is my name," respectively.
> There is no focus implied. Which noun is the subject and which
> is the object will make a difference in some settings, as in
> when the subject is a memeber of a class of nouns described with
> the object. Otherwise, it becomes less important which is the
> subject and which is the object.
>
in the light of {SoH 'Iv} and {'Iv SoH} I'm inclined to say,
that - as opposed to English - there is no difference at all.
let's try to put your examples into questions:
{charghwI' 'oH ponglIj'e'} <<Your name is charghwI'>>
{nuq 'oH ponglIj'e'} <<What is your name?>>
{charghwI' 'oH nuq'e'} or
{charghwI' nuq} <<What is charghwI'?>>
{ponglIj 'oH charghwI''e'} <<charghwI' is your name>>
{nuq 'oH charghwI''e'} <<What is charghwI'?>>
{ponglIj 'oH nuq'e'} or
{ponglIj nuq} <<What is your name?>>
at least to me, {SoH 'Iv} = {'Iv SoH} implies that
{nuq 'oH ponglIj'e'} = {ponglIj nuq}
(I asssume {SoH 'Iv} may be short for {SoH ghaH 'Iv'e'})
of course it doesn't work like that if you do have a
classification of sorts,
..oh-oh, forgot the correct pronouns for "they"..
but I'd rather make animals sentient than the other way round..
{Ha'DIbaH ?chaH targh} is certainly different from
{targh ?chaH Ha'DIbaH}...
HomDoq