tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Sun Apr 20 22:43:23 1997

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RE: SopDaq



From: 	[email protected] on behalf of Q'ISt'ova (Eliseo d'Annunzio, Esq.)
Sent: 	Sunday, April 20, 1997 9:30 PM
To: 	Multiple recipients of list
Subject: 	Re: SopDaq

> On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, William H. Martin wrote:
> 
> > NO! NO! A THOUSAND TIMES NO! How many times do we have to
> > explain that QongDaq is a noun because Okrand says it is a noun
> > and Qong is NOT a noun UNTIL Okrand says it is a noun?
> 
> Exactly, we know that Qong is "to sleep" (verb), and it has remained this
> way since Okrand made it so... -Daq is a locative designating
> position/place, and so naturally QongDaq is a position/place one would
> execute the verb/action "to sleep", ie a bed.

NO!!!  {-Daq} is a NOUN suffix.  It goes on NOUNS!  {Qong} is a verb.  It 
cannot take noun suffixes!!  {QongDaq} is a NOUN.  WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT WAS 
CREATED, OR IF WE CAN MAKE OTHER THINGS LIKE IT.  Therefore, don't do it.

> But I doubt we could go any
> further than that... Like we have many times stated, tlhIngan Hol is not
> the same as English.

We couldn't even go that far.  {QongDaq} is a distinct noun.  That's as far as 
we can go.

> > Will this ever sink in?
> 
> We can only hope...

Obviously it hasn't . . .

> > QongDaq is not a noun plus the locative
> > suffix. It is not a compound noun formed with the noun for
> > "place". QongDaq is a two syllable noun meaning bed. PERIOD.
> > That is ALL that it is.  Attempts to analyze it based upon the
> > individual syllables is massively misguided. Yes, you can see
> > patterns in it. No, those patterns are not valid observations.
> 
> As I said before... Though not in so many words...

Oh?  Read charghwI''s first line in the above paragraph again.  "QongDaq is 
not a noun plus the locative suffix."  But you said it was!  It isn't of 
course.

SuStel
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