tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Tue Oct 22 12:54:36 1996
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Re: Words from the wild (was Re: Par'Mach is ...)
- From: Dark Viper <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: Words from the wild (was Re: Par'Mach is ...)
- Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 15:54:43 -0400
At 06:56 AM 10/22/96 -0700, Joel Anderson wrote:
>
>>>"parmach" .... Perhaps there is a nominal use
>>>of "par" and parmach is, like "nuqneH" a shorthand sentance
>>>for "my dislike is small".
>>
>>How can that be? Why wouldn't they just use <parHa'tIn> following your
>>logic?
>
>Sure - they COULD. BUT, this isn't *LOGIC*, it is
>LANGUAGE. I meant to suggest one possible
>derivation. Following the theory that this IS a real
>tlhIngan word, I was pondering where it came from. BUT
>we don't KNOW. We can look at 'ejDo' and 'ejyo' and
>ponder that PERHAPS "'ej" means "star" in some past
>dialect of tlhIngan, BUT we don't KNOW. That is why
>it is fun to ponder.
>
>I confess I'm being a bit obnoxious on the subject of
>canonicity, but I find it really unhealthy that many
>seem to espouse this weird relationship with the
>Trek material, disdaining all but the "pure" material,
>or more precisely, what they decide is the pure material.
>I'm sure many people learning English wish they could
>constrain the language to the parts that made sense.
>
>I prefer to think that tlhIngan was intended to be like
>a real language, all sorts of oddball stuff
>sailing in (and be honest; the material from DS9 and
>other sources is hardly going to swamp the tlhIngan Hol
>boat).
>
>I certainly don't want anyone to throw out
>the TKD or the grammar as presented by Marc Okrand -
>I only mean to advocate the position that there is
>more to the Hol than one person, no matter how worthy
>he might be (I'm not being ironic - Okrand IS worthy).
>
>As I've noted before - more people are likely to learn
>and know "par'mach" than "bangwI' SoH" or "qa'muSHa'";
>why not accept it gracefully? Instead of appearing
>to be some kind of nerdy crank, be ready to talk about
>what it *might* mean, and then seque into what we
>REALLY know from TKD et al? Works for me.
>
>
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