tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Nov 21 20:20:51 1996
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Re: Engishization of Klingon (Was: RE: KLBC a phrase about Honor)
- From: Qov <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: Engishization of Klingon (Was: RE: KLBC a phrase about Honor)
- Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 20:19:32 -0800
At 15:01 21/11/96 -0800, charghwI' wrote:
}On Wed, 20 Nov 1996 13:55:24 -0800 Qov <[email protected]> wrote:
}> At 09:19 18/11/96 -0800, ter'eS wrote:
}>
}> }I'm not sure what my point is here, except that it seems that Okrand has
}> }lost his original inspiration for Klingon, and his choices are making it
}> }more and more like English as he goes along.
}
}> jIQochbe', te'reS. pIj DIvI' mu' rurqu' tlhIngan mu', meq tu'be'lu'taHvIS.
}
}SoHvaD meq nobnIS'a' *Okrand*? bIpotlhba'!
ghobe'. meq vIpoQbe'. novchu' tlhIngan Hol vIneH neH. DIvI' Hol rurDI' nub.
}> jIH (HaSta) jIH (bej) je tIqel.
}
}mu'mey ngo'qu' bIH.
jIH (wot) 'angbe' tlhIngan mu'ghomwIj wa'DIch. mu'tay' ngo' vIghoj mu'ghom
chIS vIleghpa'. jIHvaD chu' Hoch mu'mey'e' 'angbe'bogh mu'ghom SuD. vaj
ngo' jIH (DIp) 'ej chu' jIH (wot). (chu' jIH (Qov) je.)
}> pab chu' chenmoHDI' Marc Okrand DIvI' Hol rur.
}> bong chenmoH'a' chaq 'e' vISIv.
}
}"Does he make it accidentally? Perhaps I wonder that."
}bIjatlhchu'be' 'e' vIHar. We have no canon for the object
}sentence in Sentence As Object being a question, and I've never
}felt comfortable about it, especially in THIS form where
}"wonder" is used more like a verb of speech with the object
}sentence being more of a quotation than as the kind of
}verb-object relationship I expect from SAO.
DaH ngoDvam vISov. jIQaghmo' jIghoj 'ej jIghoj vIneH. pabwIj lughmoHmo'
charghwI' muquvmoH ghaH 'ach pabwIj lughmoHmeH charghwI' vIQeHmoHlaw'mo' jI'IQ.
}bong chenmoH 'e' DapIHlaw'. jISaHbe'. Hol chenmoHta'. ghaH
}wIvuvnIS. ghaH vIvuvbej! DavuvHa' DaneHchugh vaj maSuv. *Okrand*
}vIHubmo' jIHem.
charghwI', maSuv vIneHbe'neS. *KLI *WWW DaqDaq jabbI'IDmey law' vIlaD
jabbI'IDghomvam vImuvpa'. pabpo' DaDataHvIS jabbI'IDmey DangeHbogh vIlaD.
qavuvchoHpu' 'ej qavuvtaH. jImuj 'e' DaHarmo' chotungHa'. chaq qaSbe'bej
choH vItu'law'bogh. Holmaj Qorghchu' Okrand 'e' DaHarchugh vaj Dogh
vuDmeywIj. Hol SeH latlh vIneHbe'. Hol vISeH vIneHbe'. Hol SeHnIS Okrand.
HIyajHa'Qo'. Okrand vIvuvbej.
}> vay' lIj Hoch net chaw'ba' 'ach pab bIvDI' Okrand pabna'
}> wIngu'laHbe'.
}
}'ej not DabIv 'e' DaHar'a'? nagh wa'DIch DabaHlaH 'e' DaHar'a'?
ghobe' jay'. qechwIj vIQumbe'law'pu'. pIj jIQaghba' jIjIvmo' 'ej
jIyepbe'mo'. 'ach jIQaghDI' ram wanI'. mu'Ij 'Iv? vISaH jIH neH. mu'
vIlo'Ha'chugh jIQagh neH. bong mu' lo'Ha'chugh Okrand vaj wIlajnIS 'ej
wIQIjnIS.
}> tlhIngan Hol chenmoHlaH Okrand neH 'e' wIwuq 'ach Holmaj
}> Qorgh neHbe'law'mo' jImogh.
)
}Holmaj Dara'rupbe'. jaS bIHarchugh vaj qoHna' SoH. qoH'a' SoH.
vIra'rupbe'ba' 'ej qoH jIH net Sov. vIra' vIneHbe'bej. ghojwI' neH jIH. reH
vImaq. DaH ghojwI' quvHa' jIH.
}> SKI: Qov agrees and is frustrated by it.
}
}SKI: charghwI' is not impressed and remains loyal to the creator
}of the language.
SKI: Qov respects Okrand and charghwI' and accepts the latter's judgement of
the value of her opinions.
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Qov (Robyn Stewart) [email protected] tlhIngan Hol ghojwI'