tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Nov 18 09:55:33 1996

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Re: jIjatlhchu''a'?



On Sun, 17 Nov 1996 18:26:34 -0800 Alan Anderson 
<[email protected]> wrote:

> jIHvo':    <tlhIngan Hol QaQ vIjatlhtaH'a'> DatlhobnIS.
> SuStelvo': <tlhIngan Hol QaQ vIjatlhtaH'a'> bItlhobnIS.

lugh SuStel 'e' vIpIH. In all the canon quotations I could find, 
the quotation was never the object of the verb of speaking. If 
there was an object at all, it was consistently the person 
spoken to. The examples I found were TKD and PK. The latter 
offered the most examples.

There's also the beginning of CK, which appears to be a 
counterexample, but it is also the part spoken by the human 
during a time when he is making fatal mistakes. I can't put much 
weight on an analysis of that.

Having the quotation not be object of the verb of speech 
explains why it does not matter whether the verb of speaking 
preceeds or follows the quotation. While it is in the "Sentence 
As Object" section of TKD, it does not actually appear to be 
SAO. It is more like two sentences packed into one. They are 
next to each other, but one is apparently not object of the 
other.

I'd love it if Okrand addressed us more directly on quotations, 
but until he does, I have to agree with SuStel on this one.

> -- ghunchu'wI'

charghwI'




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