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KLBC: Re: *romangan*Daq mu'thleghmey val



 uu> From: "Mark E. Shoulson" <ur-valhalla!cs.columbia.edu!shoulson>
 uu> Subject: KLBC: Re: *romangan*Daq mu'thleghmey val

 >From: [email protected] (Bill
 >Willmerdinger)

 >{wa'Hu' lunej} and {wa'Hu' lunejpu'} mean two different things to me.
 >{wa'Hu' lunejpu'} means "Yesterday they searched" and indicates that
 >the serching is completed.  {wa'Hu' lunej} also means "Yesteday they
 >searched" but says nothing about the completion of the search, simply
 >that they were engaged in searching yesterday (and perhaps are searching
 >again today).

 uu> I split off from you here.

Well, you're allowed; you're the Grammarian, I'm just a lowly ghojwI'. :-)

 uu> Your interpretation *still* uses "-pu'" as tense-bound: it must refer

It does?  Uh...  yeah, maybe it does, at that.

 uu> So "wa'Hu' lunej" means "Yesterday they searched."  That is, sometime
 uu> yesterday there was some searching going on.  That searching may or
 uu> may not be still going on (I'm agreeing with you there), but it was

Okay, I knew I had *that* much right...

 uu> happening yesterday, and that's what I'm talking about.  "wa'Hu'
 uu> lunejpu'" means "Yesterday they had searched."  That is, as of [some
 uu> time] yesterday, the search was completed and they no longer were
 uu> searching.  It was past-tense already yesterday.

 uu> Work for you?

Ah!  Yes, definitely.  I see my mistake: I said the searching was yesterday
but  
completed as of TODAY; I *should* have said that the searching was yesterday  
and it was *completed* as of yesterday as well.  "They had searched, and had  
FINISHED searching, yesterday."  qar'a'?

 uu> ~mark

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