tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Jan 31 10:42:11 1996
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KLBC: Re: *romangan*Daq mu'thleghmey val
- From: [email protected] (Bill Willmerdinger)
- Subject: KLBC: Re: *romangan*Daq mu'thleghmey val
- Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:32:46
uu> From: "Mark E. Shoulson" <ur-valhalla!cs.columbia.edu!shoulson>
uu> Subject: KLBC: Re: *romangan*Daq mu'thleghmey val
>From: [email protected] (Bill
>Willmerdinger)
>{wa'Hu' lunej} and {wa'Hu' lunejpu'} mean two different things to me.
>{wa'Hu' lunejpu'} means "Yesterday they searched" and indicates that
>the serching is completed. {wa'Hu' lunej} also means "Yesteday they
>searched" but says nothing about the completion of the search, simply
>that they were engaged in searching yesterday (and perhaps are searching
>again today).
uu> I split off from you here.
Well, you're allowed; you're the Grammarian, I'm just a lowly ghojwI'. :-)
uu> Your interpretation *still* uses "-pu'" as tense-bound: it must refer
It does? Uh... yeah, maybe it does, at that.
uu> So "wa'Hu' lunej" means "Yesterday they searched." That is, sometime
uu> yesterday there was some searching going on. That searching may or
uu> may not be still going on (I'm agreeing with you there), but it was
Okay, I knew I had *that* much right...
uu> happening yesterday, and that's what I'm talking about. "wa'Hu'
uu> lunejpu'" means "Yesterday they had searched." That is, as of [some
uu> time] yesterday, the search was completed and they no longer were
uu> searching. It was past-tense already yesterday.
uu> Work for you?
Ah! Yes, definitely. I see my mistake: I said the searching was yesterday
but
completed as of TODAY; I *should* have said that the searching was yesterday
and it was *completed* as of yesterday as well. "They had searched, and had
FINISHED searching, yesterday." qar'a'?
uu> ~mark
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