tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Jan 29 10:03:14 1996
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KLBC: Re: *romangan*Daq mu'thleghmey val
- From: [email protected] (Bill Willmerdinger)
- Subject: KLBC: Re: *romangan*Daq mu'thleghmey val
- Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:38:27
uu> From: ur-valhalla!rel1.byu.edu!rhodesmd (Michael Rhodes)
uu> Subject: KLBC: Re: *romangan*Daq mu'thleghmey val
While I realize that ghunchu'wI' has first crack at KLBC posts, I thought the
following point worth emphasizing. It's one that we all need to watch out
for,
because it's a powerful tool that can be misused by linking {-pu'} too closely
with the past tense.
uu> Okrand also states that "Verbs with no Type 7 suffix are translated by
uu> the English simple present tense," (TKD 4.2.7, p. 40) but that "when
uu> context is appropriate, verbs without a Type 7 suffix may be translated
uu> by the English future tense." (TKD 4.2.7, 0. 40) Nowhere does he state
uu> that it is appropriate to translate verbs with no Type 7 suffix as past
uu> tense.
I have to disagree.
"Klingon does not express tenses... These ideas come across from context or
other words in the sentence (such as {wa'leS} "tomorrow")... The absence of a
Type 7 suffix usually means that the action is not completed and is not
continuous...."
Those other words are, of course, a time element, such as {wa'leS} or {wa'Hu'}
or {wa'SaD Hutvatlh HutmaH jav ben}.
{wa'Hu' lunej} and {wa'Hu' lunejpu'} mean two different things to me. {wa'Hu'
lunejpu'} means "Yesterday they searched" and indicates that the serching is
completed. {wa'Hu' lunej} also means "Yesteday they searched" but says
nothing
about the completion of the search, simply that they were engaged in searching
yesterday (and perhaps are searching again today).
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