tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Apr 11 17:08:36 1996
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X-Daq X-Daq je
- From: Mark Mandel <[email protected]>
- Subject: X-Daq X-Daq je
- Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 20:08:06 -0500
mujang charghwI':
<<<<<<<<<<
> vuDwIj 'oH wuqvam'e' je: You can also use a noun-conjunction to
join
> nouns with *different* Type 5 suffixes. For example, if you ask me
to
> name some of the spaceports I know, I might answer:
> (2) Qo'noSDaq tera'Daq romuluSvo' je vIchIjpu'.
> I've navigated to Kronos and to Terra and from Romulus.
I didn't know that {wuq} was a noun. I don't think it is one.
I'm pretty sure it is not one, so I think {wuqvam'e'} is a
non-word.
Example (2) is quite confused. There is no apparent object, yet
with the prefix {vI-} one expects one. I probably would have
expressed this as:
Qo'noS tera' romuluS je vIghoSta'.
The question was about port familiarity, so it doesn't really
matter which was I was going at each of these ports. This
statement basically means that I have accomplished travelling
the course including Kronos, Earth and Romulus. We know that
with {ghoS}, nouns relating to places are usually the object of
the verb and don't require {-Daq} or {-vo'}, though as humans,
we tend to use {-vo'} for the sake of clarity when appropriate.
Also, I'd note that if you are speaking Klingon to Klingons and
you state that your place of origin is Romulus, well... your
near future is likely to be insecure.
>>>>>>>>>>
cha'logh HIvqa' veqlargh! I was flipping through TKD fast, and,
remembering that I'd seen <wuq> in the body and in the Addendum,
I thought its two glosses were "decide" and "decision".
jIlughbe'! They're "decide" and "decide upon". And I meant jI-,
not vI-. So:
(2') Qo'noSDaq tera'Daq romuluSvo' je jIchIjpu'.
As for charghwI''s last two paragraphs, the last sentence is NOT
about a route with three ports on it. Suppose I'm an apprentice
pilot (or navigator, but we don't have a verb for "pilot" or
"drive", alas!) on a merchant ship, and I've made a few port
entries and departures (which are not interchangeable) under
supervision. I haven't flown a complete flight, much less a
multi-leg route. Let's make the translation, then,
I've flown INTO Kronos and Terra, and OUT OF Romulus.
And if anyone wishes to challenge my right to trade with whomever
I please, they are welcome to do so. HoHbeH betleHwIj!
marqem, tlhIngan veQbeq la'Hom -- Heghbej ghIHmoHwI'pu'!
Subcommander Markemm,
Klingon Sanitation Corps -- Death to Litterbugs!
Mark A. Mandel
Dragon Systems, Inc. : speech recognition : +1 617 965-5200
320 Nevada St. : Newton, Mass. 02160, USA : [email protected]