tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Sep 25 01:25:19 1995

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Re: }} vIt "idioms" je



On Mon, 25 Sep 1995, Matt 'I am man, hear me watch Seinfeld' Treyvaud wrote:

> <Do'>! vIQaghpu'. :) chelHomDaq "truth" vInejbe'. (chelHom = 
> "addendum", lajlu'?). 

vay' DatlhobDI' <-'a'> DachelnIS.  E.g. {...lajlu''a'?}

wot 'oH <chel>'e'.  chaq <'ay' chellu'pu'bogh> Dalo'laH.
{'ay' chellu'pu'bogh} = (the section which one has added; "the added 
section".)

> reH jIlIj. 'ay'vetlh ghajbe'taH'a' "TKD" ngo'? 

HIja'.  tlhIngan mu'ghom ngo' vIghaj 'ej 'ay'vetlh ngaSbe'.

> "idioms" ghajtaH'a' tlhIngan Hol? "CK"Daq "PK"Daq je bIHtaH 'e' 
> vIHartaH, 'ach SovchoHmeH "CK" "PK" je vItu'laHbe'taH.

Minor grammatical error, when you use a compound sentence with {'e'}, the 
second verb can not have an aspect suffix. (...'e' vIHar...) (See p. 66)

> (I haven't got time to put these next bits in tlhIngan): How does one use 
> <je> when there are more than two nouns? Just list the nouns, then add <je>?

Section 4.7 says {je} and other noun conjuctions come after the _final_ noun.
We don't have a canon example of a three-noun conjuction, but I would put 
{je} after all three.

> Is there a word for "music", other than maybe {Dochmey chenmoHbogh chuS'ugh}?

HIja'. The word for "music" is {QoQ}. (HolQeD 2.4)

> How is the verb {qawmoH} (remind) used? Specifically, how can you say 
> 'You remind me OF a snake'? Would it be acceptable to consider 'you' the 
> subject, 'a snake' the object, and 'me' the beneficiary?

{qawmoH} is {qaw} (to remember) + {-moH}, meaning "to cause to 
remember".  
E.g. {veQ nge'meH ghaH qawmoH be'nalDaj.} (His wife reminded him to 
take out the trash.)

To say "You remind me of a snake" I would say {qaleghDI' ghargh Darur 
'e' vIHar} (When I see you, I belive you resemble a serpent) or simply 
{ghargh Darur} (You resemble a serpent).

yoDtargh




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