tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Mar 20 12:03:56 1995
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Re: Klingon in VOX
- From: "A.Appleyard" <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: Klingon in VOX
- Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 16:56:13 GMT
- Priority: normal
> From: Jeremy Cowan <[email protected]>
> Subject: Klingon in VOX
> VOX is a Brittish pop magazine. The March '95 issue ... Klingon Karaoke.
Is there a recording of these Klingon versions?
> sans serif font so there's one letter that I couldn't tell if it was an I
> or l ...
Like I said, it is time we asked Marc Okrand for permission to write {i}
instead of {I} to avoid such unclearnesses.
> doesn't matter, neither fits there). Although I see some errors and made-up
> words, Mr. Greene seems to have a pretty good grasp of the grammar. But I
> leave it to others to comment on specifics.
I found one made-up word and some verbs used as gerund nouns. Here is an
analysis:-
## = verb used as noun
>> = seems like it should be
KL: 1) Hogh rIn ram va va va va va
EN: Saturday Night Di Di Di Da Da (Whigfield)
---- *1) Hogh ---- - N:Klingon_week
---- rIn ---- - V:be_accomplished ##
---- ram ---- - N:night
---- va ---- - S:$%^&_invective* /* used as space-filler
KL: Hogh rIn ram SoH rur tujcho Hlaw' Mud
EN: Saturday night, I feel the air is getting hot
---- * Hogh ---- - N:Klingon_week
---- rIn ---- - V:be_accomplished ##
---- ram ---- - N:night
---- SoH ---- - P:you
---- rur ---- - V:resemble
---- tujcho Hlaw' >> tujchoHlaw' - V:be_hot VS3:change VS6:apparently
---- Mud >> muD - atmosphere
"The atmosphere seems to become hot. (It) resembles you. (The time is)
week-completing-night".
KL: Bangoy
EN: Like you, baby
/* "like" treated as verb with missing subject, not "resembling".
KL: SoH qaghajchoHmoH'e' DaSov I'll make you mine you know
---- * SoH ---- - P:you
---- qaghajchoHmoH'e'
---- - PP:I/you_sg V:have V:alter V:be_ugly NS5:topic
The noun-suffix {'e'} after verb suffixes was somewhat of a Qighpej for my
analyser. {qaghajchoHmoH} = PP:I/you_sg V:have VS3:change VS4:cause.
Likely the 'e' = "that" referring to the clause like in English: "you know
<that> I cause you to start having" is the actual meaning. He has made his
own solution to the problem how to use a clause as a noun.
---- DaSov ---- - PP:you_sg/[he|it|them] V:know
- V:act_like_a* V:know
- V:act_like_a* N:knowledge*
KL: SalvuSDaq qatlhej
EN: I'll take you to the top
---- * SalvuSDaq ---- - V:ascend ## V:limit ## NS5:locative
---- qatlhej ---- - PP:I/you_sg V:accompany
KL: qamaw'choHmoH
EN: I'll drive you crazy
---- * qamaw'choHmoH ---- - PP:I/you_sg V:be_crazy VS3:change VS4:cause
............................................
KL: YotlhDaq yIn
EN: Parklife (Blur)
---- YotlhDaq ---- - N:field_of_land NS5:locative
---- yIn ---- - V:live / - N:life
KL: Chammo' tlhetlh 'oHbe DochlIj'e' DaSov
EN: It's not about your Vorsprung durch technic you know
---- * Chammo' ---- # N:torpedoes <m> VS9:because*
# N:torpedoes <m> NS5:due_to
Apparent invented word {cham} = "progress" (noun)
---- tlhetlh ---- - V:progress
---- 'oHbe >> 'oHbe' "it is not"
---- DochlIj'e' - N:thing NS4:your_sg_nonsentient NS5:topic
/* "the thing" used as a pronoun = "it".
---- DaSov ---- - PP:you_sg/[he|it|them] V:know
KL: GhoHeDaq Sulengbogh qetwI'pu' tlhIHbe' Doch'e'je
EN: And it's not about you joggers who go round and round
---- GhoHeDaq ---- - N:circle N:route_course NS5:locative
---- Sulengbogh ---- - PP:you_pl/- V:[roam|travel|rove] VS9:which_rel
---- qetwI'pu' ---- - V:[run|jog] VS9:[agent|instrument] NS2:pl_sentient
---- tlhIHbe' ---- - P:you_pl VSR:not
---- Doch'e'je ---- >> Doch'e' je = N:thing NS5:topic O:and
/* "the thing" used as a pronoun = "it".
/* {je} should be {'ej} here and (I think) be <before> the clause
............................................
KL: Do nom law' chuS nom puS
EN: Supersonic (Oasis)
---- Do ---- - N:velocity
---- nom ---- - A:fast
---- law' ---- - V:be_many
---- chuS ---- - V:be_noisy ## as "noise"
---- nom ---- - A:fast
---- puS ---- - V:be_[few|several|handful]
"the speed is faster, the noise is slower"
KL: Elsa' ponglu'bogh be'Hom vISov
EN: I know a girl called Elsa
---- * Elsa' ---- /* {'el Sa'} = "enter general(rank)"
---- ponglu'bogh ---- - V:[name|call] VS5:indef_subject VS9:which_rel
---- be'Hom ---- - N:girl
---- vISov ---- - PP:I/[he|it|them] V:know
KL: Poq Hergh parHa' parHa' ghaH
EN: She's into Alka-Selzer
---- * Poq ---- - N:indigestion
---- Hergh ---- - N:medicine
---- parHa' ---- - V:like
---- parHa' ---- - V:like
---- ghaH ---- - P:he
/* I suppose that the verb is repeated to fill the meter
KL: LupwI'ghomDaq Do nom law' chuS nom puS naQHom lo'bogh ghIchDajDaq Qay
EN: She sniffs it through a cane on a supersonic train
---- * LupwI'ghomDaq ----
V:transport VS9:[agent|instrument] N:group NS5:locative
---- Do ---- - N:velocity
---- nom ---- - A:fast
---- law' ---- - V:be_many
---- chuS ---- - V:be_noisy ##
---- nom ---- - A:fast
---- puS ---- - V:be_[few|several|handful] = "speed is faster than sound"
---- naQHom ---- - N:[cane|staff]* NS1:diminutive
---- lo'bogh ---- - V:use VS9:which_rel
---- ghIchDajDaq ---- - N:nose NS4:his NS5:locative
---- Qay ---- - V:transfer
............................................
KL: Seng
EN: Trouble (Shampoo)
---- Seng ---- - V:cause_trouble / - N:trouble
KL: Qu'vatlh masengchoH
EN: Uh-oh we're in trouble
---- * Qu'vatlh ---- - S:#*@!
---- masengchoH >> maSengchoH = "we start to cause trouble"
/* likely not quite the intended meaning
KL: Paw vay' 'ej moQmaj Qaw'ta
EN: Something's come along and it's burst our bubble
---- * Paw ---- - V:arrive
---- vay' ---- - N:[some|any]_[body|thing]
---- 'ej ---- - C:and
---- moQmaj ---- - N:sphere NS4:our_nonsentient
---- Qaw'ta >> Qaw'ta' - V:destroy VS7 [accomplished|done]
............................................
KL: VuS pagh
EN: There's No Limit (2 Unlimited)
---- VuS ---- - V:limit
---- pagh ---- - N:nothing
KL: Ghobe' ghobe' ghobe' ghobe' ghobe'
EN: No no no no no no no no no no
---- * Ghobe' ---- - E:no_to_qn
KL: Ghobe' vuS tu'lu'be'
EN: There's no limit
---- * Ghobe' ---- - E:no_to_question
---- vuS ---- - V:limit
---- tu'lu'be' ---- V:[discover|find|observe|notice] VS5:indef_subject VSR:not