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Re: Nick's comments on HolQeD



ghItlh qoran:
>Yes, it would be nice, wouldn't it? But can one say that? I know that
>comparisons are a rule unto themselves and that they have absolutely
>nothing behind them in the rest of the grammar, but this looks to me
>suspiciously similar to SASs, wouldn't you say? You can't say directly
>"It is preferable that I go." Not with what we know this moment. If I
>got that right. (Wild guesses as {jIjaH. qaq 'e'} and other weird and
>not-yet-and-who-knows-when-and-indeed-if-approved things excluded. {{:^))

But you're dealing with a comparative construction, in all of which the
stative verb (quality under comparison) comes *AFTER* the two nouns being
compared. Recall the general formula:

N1 Q law' N2 Q puS

{'e'} is of course a noun. A stative verb following the pronoun would not
only be acceptable, but doing it any other way would not be grammatical.
Let's re-analyze charghwI''s sentence:

{jIjaH 'e' qaq law' jIratlh 'e' qaq puS}

The two things being compared are the pronouns {'e'} which in this case refer
to two different things. So actually {jIjaH 'e'} and {jIratlh 'e'} are being
compared. These fit into the N1 and N2 positions. {qaq} fits into the Q
position, AFTER the N1 and N2. Then you have your comparative markers, {law'}
and {puS}.

So that's how it is.


Guido#1, Leader of All Guidos


ghItlh 'o': tIchmeH mu'vam'e' chaq lo'lu'

yIH vISop 'e' Qob law'  SoH qaSuv 'e' Qob puS



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