tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Fri Apr 01 05:09:40 1994

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On Thu, 31 Mar 1994, trI'Qal wrote:

> Okay, I confess....
> I have hard-copies of everything that has come through the list. Since I first 
> joined.  The bad news is, it isn't organized yet.  (I am working on it).  
> Also, I have the habit of translataing and composing replies in margins.  The 
> even worse news is the number of them... photocopying costs would be 
> astronomical.  However, I have them, and despite my step-mother's grumbling, I 
> am NOT going to give them up anytime soon.  If someone can find a way to 
> utilize this, speak up... I would be hapy to make it all available, especially 
> once I get it filed a bit.

Greetings from another lurker. This is my first posting to this list. As a
linguist by first training, I'm very interested in constructed languages,
and I'm a Star Trek fan, so I'm very interested in Klingon. I'm currently
in the process of collecting Klingon corpus material from the Internet:
learning vocabulary is not a problem (I have training software that can
display Klingon items in pIqaD ...), but nothing really hangs together if
I don't have real-life examples to work from.

I agree wholeheartedly that the information from this mailing list should
be made available to those unfortunate enough to be unconnected to the
Internet. I've noticed that the messages from this mailing list are also
archived on an anonymous FTP site, so resorting to existing hardcopies
would not be the only option.

In my day job, I edit/publish a monthly, 60-page magazine based almost
entirely on the material gleaned from a particular Internet mailing list
(having to do with geographic information systems, but that's of no
concern here). My contributing editors and I divide up all the messages
each month (about 400-500 per month, amounting to around 1MB of text or
so) under various rubrics, and write completely fresh copy designed to
*review* the news, tips and open questions contained in the email
messages. 

The reason for writing fresh review copy, rather than simply printing up
somewhat edited versions of the email messages themselves, is that the
latter activity would be illegal in this country. Electronic mail messages
that have been posted to a public forum (Usenet newsgroup, BBS or mailing
list) have been *published* in the legal sense of the word, and the
copyright is owned by the author, unless explicitly stated otherwise. It
is therefore not a trivial matter to *re-*publish these messages without
the consent (or even knowledge) of their authors. 

If the KLI or others decide to publish information from the list archives
in some form, I'd be very interested in helping. We're a small startup
publishing house, FWIW, but I suspect that the KLI can do its own
publishing if it wants. I can certainly provide you with all kinds of
advice (legal, technical, editorial, production) based on the mailing list
review publication we're doing, if anybody's interested. 

-- Mark

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