tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Dec 16 13:01:47 1993
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Pondering...
- From: [email protected] (Mark E. Shoulson)
- Subject: Pondering...
- Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 16:01:30 -0500
- In-Reply-To: David Barron's message of Thu, 16 Dec 1993 07:52:32 -0700 (MST) <m0pAK4A-0001TaC@idptv>
>From: [email protected] (David Barron)
>Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 07:52:32 -0700 (MST)
>I need some clearification on a one point.
>Perhaps this would make a good discusion.
>How do these two mu'tlhegh differ:
> a) lughHa' jabbI'ID wa'DIch
> b) lughHa' 'oH jabbI'ID wa'DIch'e'
>Under what cercumstances would one work better than the other?
Under *all* circumstances, the first would be better than the second. The
second is pretty much ungrammatical no matter how you read it. If "'oH" is
being used as a pronoun, then it has to be the subject of the verb
"lughHa'". In which case, "jabbI'ID wa'DIch'e'" is a lone noun-phrase, a
sentence fragment.
If you're using "'oH" as a verb, then you have two verbs at the beginning.
I suppose it could be two sentences, "lughHa'. 'oH jabbI'ID wa'DIch'e'"
(he/she/it/they is/are wrong. It is the *first message*). But it looks to
me like you're trying to use "'oH" like we use a copula in English, to link
adjectives and nouns. There is *no* basis for this in Klingon.
Pronoun-verbs are used to indicate existence (as in "pa'wIjDaq jIHtaH") or
equality between nouns (as in "puq ghaH qama''e'"). You can't have a
*verb* in front of it, then you're trying to have a sentence as an object
(which requires a special pronoun, 'e'/net). Your second sentence is just
plain wrong, near as I can tell. Make sense?
~mark