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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] mu' chu': {Qoyje'} n. certificate

nIqolay Q ([email protected])



Note the pun: "hereby".

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Steven Boozer <[email protected]> wrote:
> {yer ghajwI' chaw'} was used in Klingon Monopoly:
>
>   cha'maH chorgh yer ghajwI' chaw' 'echletHommey
>
>   28 Title Deed cards  (MKE)
>
> FYI, known types of {chaw’mey}
>
>
>
>   HIjmeH chaw'                        stamp (n) (TNK)
>  Huch chaw'                            credit card (n) (TNK)
>  leng chaw'                             passport  (n) (TNK)
>  yer ghajwI' chaw'                   title deed (n) (MKE)
>  'elmeH chaw'                         ticket (n) (WSC)
>
> and some sentences:
>
>
>
>   cha'puj vIngevmeH chaw' HInobneS
>
>   Give me a permit to sell dilithium, your honor. (PK)
>
>
>  nuqDaq chaw' vIje'
>
>   Where can I buy a ticket? (TNK)
>
>
>   chaw'vam yIpol 'ej SIbI'Ha' yIlo' pagh 'oH yImech
>
>   This card may be kept until needed or traded. (MKE)
>
>
>
> 'elmeH chaw'mey je'lu'ta'bogh
>
>   will-call tickets (WSC)
>
> And we can now refer to the {matlh jupna’ Qoyje’} “Friend(s) of Maltz
> Certificate” which was issued by the KLI:
>
>
>
>   DaHjaj matlh jupna' pIpong
>
>   Today we name you a true friend of Maltz. (FMC)
>
>
>
> --
>
> Voragh
>
> Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
>
>
>
>
>
> From: De'vID [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 7:07 AM
>
> --- begin quote ---
>
> Maltz tells me, though, that there is a word for certificate. It's Qoyje',
> and Maltz said it could be used for the kind of certificate you're talking
> about, but also for other things, such as a diploma. It can't be used for a
> license or a permit — that, of course, is chaw'. The difference is that a
> Qoyje' is proof or verification of some sort of achievement or
> accomplishment, but it doesn't necessarily allow you to do anything as a
> result of that. A chaw' shows that you are officially or legally allowed to
> do or get or own something.
>
>
>
> Maltz said that *yer ghajwI' Qoyje' for "deed" might seem to make sense
> (rather than yer ghajwI' chaw'), but not from a Klingon legal perspective,
> since property ownership is granted by a government or other sort of
> authority — it's not an accomplishment (though those of us paying mortgages
> might feel otherwise).
> --- end quote ---
>
>
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