tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Sat Feb 07 09:30:54 2015
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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: jaw
<p dir="ltr">Oh yes, now that you mention it, he has told this story several times before. I didn't think if the context, and when I translate or write anything in Klingon, I always use {joH}. So yeah, it's really a coincidence. But a nice one.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I'll put it into my list of pseudo-cognates between language (unrelated and unborrowed words in 2 language with the same meaning and the same pronunciation, like Persian and English 'bad', the most famous example.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 7, 2015 11:59 PM, "nIqolay Q" <<a href="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I think it might just be a coincidence. IIRC, the behind-the-scenes<br>
story for {jaw} is that the actress playing Valkris couldn't pronounce<br>
some of the Klingon words right, so MO just retconned her<br>
mispronunciation of {joH} into a synonym. I believe this is the same<br>
reason why there are two words for "yes", {HIja'} and {HISlaH}.<br>
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On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 10:34 AM, André Müller <<a href="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br>
> It just occurred to me that "jaw" might be another pun, or a nice<br>
> coincidence.<br>
><br>
> In Thai and several other Tai-Kadai languages such as Shan, the word for<br>
> lord is indeed "jao", pronounced just like the Klingon word (well, almost):<br>
> <เจ้า> [tɕâːw] vs. <jaw> [dʒɑw].<br>
> The beginning consonant in Thai sounds pretty similar to the Klingon {j},<br>
> although it's voiceless.<br>
><br>
> I wonder if it was intentional (as with <lung> being identical in<br>
> pronunciation to the Mandarin Chinese word for dragon), or if it's a<br>
> coincidence...<br>
><br>
> Greetings from {bangqoq} (or rather: {qungtep maHa'naqon}),<br>
> - André<br>
><br>
> On Feb 7, 2015 10:02 PM, "qurgh lungqIj" <<a href="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, February 07, 2015<br>
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>> Klingon word: jaw<br>
>> Part of speech: noun<br>
>> Definition: lord<br>
>> Source: TKD (90 KE, 123 EK)<br>
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