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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] new words [Re: Festival of the Spoken Nerd DVD]

Robyn Stewart ([email protected]) [KLI Member] [Hol po'wI']

The Micosoft Bing translator has been instructed in the use of the new
vocabulary, and the version using it will  be released soon. 

-----Original Message-----
From: De'vID [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: April 30, 2015 9:01
To: tlhIngan-Hol
Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] new words [Re: Festival of the Spoken Nerd DVD]

On 9 March 2015 at 12:22, De'vID <[email protected]> wrote:
> tlhIngan Hol mu' chu' 'oghlu'pu'bogh Marc Okrand ngaS DVD-vam:
> http://festivalofthespokennerd.com/dvd/

The DVD is finalised and will start shipping in May. This means that I can
publicly release the information Dr. Okrand sent me about the new
vocabulary. The translations for the DVD were done by me, with vocabulary
help from Dr. Okrand and proofreading help from Felix Malmenbeck (loghaD).
(Points (5) and (6) have already been posted to the mailing list previously,
since those words didn't actually make it on to the DVD, but I'm just
including the whole message for
completeness.)

The title of the DVD in Klingon is {qatru' jatlhlu'bogh yupma'}. You can see
a sample screen shot here (and follow the @FOTSN Twitter account for more
info):
https://twitter.com/FOTSN/status/583338160752615424

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Here's what Maltz had to say.

(1) {ven} can be used for "be nerdy," but there may be some other apt
English translations.  It describes someone who is really into something (or
a number of things), a true devotee, who partakes in activities associated
with whatever he/she is into -- doesn't just sit on the sidelines -- and
does so very seriously (though, with Klingons, pretty much everything is
done very seriously by everybody, so this isn't much of a distinction).

It is possible to say {venwI'} "one who is nerdy" or "nerd."

(2) Another word for "nerd" is {qatru'}.  Though {venwI'} is fine, {qatru'}
is more common... and nerdier.  ({qatru'} is the word he gave me before he
was perplexed by "nerd vs. geek.")

(3) {ngom} can be used for "be geeky."  Like {ven}, it's used to describe
someone who's really into something and knows a lot about it, but doesn't
necessarily partake in related activities -- certainly not with the
thoroughness of a {qatru'}.  (Also, as with {ven}, there may be some other
English glosses besides "be geeky.")

It is possible to say {ngomwI'} "one who is geeky" or "geek."

(4) For "spectrum," Maltz said to use the word {yutlhegh}.  This is really a
(musical) scale, but the word can also be used for other sorts of ranges.
Maltz, of course, never heard of a "Spectrum of Nerdiness," but he said it
could be {qatru' yutlhegh} or {venwI'
yutlhegh} or even {ventaHghach yutlhegh}.  (Of the latter, Maltz said it
made sense to him and was grammatical, but he didn't really like
it.)

(5) The Big Bang -- meaning the start of the universe -- is, as you once
hypothesized, {qa'vam}, the word used by Klingons for the Genesis device.
{qa'vam} is perhaps best defined as "origin of everything" or "start of it
all" or the like.  Maltz said you could say {qa'vam nger} "Big Bang Theory,"
but he thought that was weird -- the start of it all isn't a theory, he said
-- it's just the start of it all.  If one thinks the start of it all was a
big explosion and that's a theory, then {qa'vam nger} could mean "the theory
of how everything began,"
but the Klingon phrase doesn't contain the notion of explosion.  For the TV
Show -- whether to translate it or use the English -- that's up to you.

(6) {muchpa'} is fine for "theater" (or "theatre"), but a better translation
might be "auditorium."  Maltz agreed with your observation that it's kind of
close to {puchpa'}, but he said that, given his viewing of Terran plays and
movies, that might be apt and it didn't bother him at all.  If "Bloomsbury
Theatre" refers to the whole building -- auditorium, lobby, dressing rooms,
{puchpa'mey}), not just the room where the performance takes place, he'd go
with {much qach}.

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De'vID

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