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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] "Knitting" in Klingon
- From: lojmIt tI'wI' nuv 'utlh <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] "Knitting" in Klingon
- Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2014 17:09:19 -0400
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You have a good point, that {-chugh} turns what would be a sentence into a dependent clause, and {‘e’} is for “Sentence As Object”, not “Dependent Clause As Object”, but you’ve apparently missed the use of {neH} meaning “only”.
The literal translation (if Klingon were a code) would be:
"Well done. I wonder if only I did not see the word-joke."
That makes sense in English, but it doesn’t really make sense in Klingon because, as you point out, the grammar is broken.
I’d go with something like:
nIteb mu’qID vIghovbe’pu’’a’? jISIv.
or
mu’qID vIghovbe’pu’. lughovbe’pu’’a’ latlhpu' je?
Another somewhat controversial grammar issue is whether or not {‘e’} works with “Question As Object”. If that was ever resolved, I don’t remember it. I’m among the doubters that it works.
For me, that’s what makes {SIv} a challenge to use well, except as a simple statement.
Though I suspect I’m about to be corrected and reminded of canon I’ve forgotten...
lojmIt tI’wI’ nuv ‘utlh
Door Repair Guy, Retired Honorably
> On Nov 1, 2014, at 2:38 AM, De'vID <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> SuStel:
>>> Or not so obvious. 'ach loymeH Quj vIpar.
>
> Voragh:
>> maj. mu'qID vIleghbe'chugh jIH neH 'e' vISIv. HIchuH!
>
> I read that as "I wonder whether he'd want it, if I didn't see the
> word-joke." Doesn't {SIv} already contain the sense of "wonder if"? I
> don't think {-chugh} can combine with {SIv} like that, though.
>
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> De'vID
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