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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: Daw'

De'vID ([email protected])



Voragh:
>>    lujang meQboghnom 'oH, yeqchuqchu'taHghach Daw' je joqwI'
>>    They reply it is the {meQboghnom}, the banner of unity and revolution.
>> PB

SuStel:
> Notice the multiple suffixes preceding {-ghach}. Notice also the use of
> {jang} as a verb of saying, whose object is third-person singular.

Actually, how do verbs of speech work with third-person plural
subjects? Did Okrand ever cover this?

He talks about first- and second-person prefixes with {jatlh} here:
http://klingonska.org/canon/1997-06-29a-news.txt

The rule is that if the speaker is first- or second-person, and it's a
direct quotation, the prefix indicating no object is used (Presumably,
this rule can be extended to other "verbs of speech".) But he doesn't
say whether {lu-} or the null prefix is used if it's a direct
quotation from a third-person plural subject, nor does he give
examples of first- and second-person plural subjects. Perhaps it's
impossible to give a direct quotation for a plural subject, since it's
assumed impossible for multiple people to say exactly the same thing?

And here, he mentions that there are very few "verbs of speech", "like
{jatlh} and {ja'}":
http://klingonska.org/canon/1998-12-holqed-07-4.txt

Am I right to understand that the {lujang} example from PB implies
that (1) {jang} is a verb of speech, and (2) the answer is an indirect
quotation? (The English translation seems to support this.)

-- 
De'vID

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