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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Last X and testament?

lojmIt tI'wI' nuv 'utlh ([email protected]) 

<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div>All of this assumes that Klingons would have a will. Wouldn’t it be more likely that when someone dies, everybody just fights over their stuff?</div><div><br></div><div>And who cares about commands left by a corpse? The whole idea is repugnant. Next, you’ll be looking for the word for “funeral”. {mol} is something one does to treasure, not to corpses.</div><br><div>
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<br><div><div>On Mar 8, 2014, at 8:30 AM, Fiat Knox &lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 18pt;"><div><span>With no noun form for<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><span style="font-weight: bold;">ra'</span><span><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><span style="font-style: italic;">command</span><span><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>(v)</span><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>apparent, a title such as {<span style="font-weight: bold;">ra'mey Qav</span><span>} "final orders" would be a bit problematical. But a Will is not just a list of stuff to be given away; it's a set of final commands. "Howl for me in the traditional manner," "Feast and sing songs of my deeds in the Great Hall at High Sun" and all that.</span></span></div><div style="font-size: 24px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><span>If there were a noun form for<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><span style="font-style: italic;">command</span><span><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>it'd be easy -<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span>{<span style="font-weight: bold;">ra'mey Qav tetlh</span><span>}</span>. Perhaps {<span style="font-weight: bold;">tetlh Qav</span><span>} or {<span style="font-weight: bold;">Hegh tetlh</span><span>}?</span></span></span></span></div><br><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"><br><br><div style="font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 18pt;"><div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2">On Saturday, 8 March 2014, 13:03, Rohan Fenwick &lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></font></div><blockquote style="border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv1463653363"><div dir="ltr">Anyone ever had cause to render "will" as in "last will and testament" into Klingon? I'm about to get into a section of {mIl'oD veDDIr SuvwI'} that uses the term often, and I'm seriously struggling with anything that's not a long circumlocution like {Heghpu'wI' 'aH noblu'meH nab}. We've got quite a bit of vocabulary about the practices surrounding death - {SonchIy}, {Heghtay}, {bIreqtal}, {lom}, {nol}, {mol} - but "will" isn't among them, and nor are any alternatives like "bequeath", "bequest", "inherit", "legacy". (Kind of surprising for a culture where House status is such a prominent part of one's identity. We do have {quH} "heritage", but that's about as close as it gets. For "bequest", perhaps {quH nob}?)<br><br>All suggestions will be much appreciated.<br><br>QeS<br></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>Tlhingan-hol mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:[email protected]"; href="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a><br><a href="http://mail.kli.org/mailman/listinfo/tlhingan-hol"; target="_blank">http://mail.kli.org/mailman/listinfo/tlhingan-hol</a><br><br><br></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>Tlhingan-hol mailing list<br><a href="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a><br><a href="http://mail.kli.org/mailman/listinfo/tlhingan-hol";>http://mail.kli.org/mailman/listinfo/tlhingan-hol</a></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>
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