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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] vagh jaj, vagh 'uy' DarSeq je

Brent Kesler ([email protected]) [KLI Member]



<div dir="ltr">nIqolay, voragh je Satlho&#39;neS. {law&#39;}, {puS} je lo&#39;meH, DaHjaj jIH val law&#39;, wa&#39;Hu&#39; jIH val puS.<div><br></div><div>bI&#39;reng</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Steven Boozer <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]"; target="_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
bI&#39;reng:<br>
<div class="">&lt; I was wondering about comparatives just last night.  Here&#39;s my general<br>
&lt; thinking. It&#39;s easy when the comparison is a straightforward &quot;This noun<br>
&lt; is more adjective than that noun.&quot; For example:<br>
&lt;<br>
&lt;    1. batlh potlh law&#39; yIn potlh puS [TKW]<br>
&lt;       Honor is more important than life.<br>
&lt;<br>
&lt; It gets a little more complicated when you want to compare ideas rather<br>
&lt; than just nouns.<br>
&lt;<br>
&lt;    2. QamvIS Hegh qaq law&#39;, torvIS yIn qaq puS [TKW]<br>
&lt;       Better to die on our feet than live on our knees.<br>
&lt;<br>
&lt; We can dissect this all day, I&#39;m sure. We could see {QamvIS Hegh} and<br>
&lt; {torvIS yIn} as noun phrases, that way they fit the standard [A Q law&#39;,<br>
</div>&lt; B Q puS] formula. [....]<br>
<br>
Talking about comparisons... noun phrases in the A and B slots (marked by angle brackets) can be fairly complicated:<br>
<br>
  DujvamDaq &lt;tlhIngan nuH tu&#39;lu&#39;bogh&gt; pov law&#39; Hoch pov puS &#39;ej DujvamDaq<br>
  &lt;&#39;op SuvwI&#39; tu&#39;lu&#39;bogh&gt; po&#39; law&#39; &lt;tlhIngan yo&#39; SuvwI&#39; law&#39;&gt; po&#39; puS<br>
  It [IKC Pagh] has the best weapons and some of the finest warriors in<br>
  the Klingon fleet. S7<br>
<br>
Also note that each comparison in this compound sentence is prefaced by {DujvamDaq} &quot;in this ship&quot;.  Other examples of using an introductory place stamp (again marked in angle brackets) are:<br>
<br>
  &lt;reH latlh qabDaq&gt; qul tuj law&#39; Hoch tuj puS<br>
  The fire is always hotter on someone else&#39;s face. PK<br>
<br>
  &lt;qIbDaq SuvwI&#39;&#39;e&#39;&gt; SoH Dun law&#39; Hoch Dun puS<br>
  You would be the greatest warrior in the galaxy. ST5<br>
<br>
Another way to compare ideas is to preface the {law&#39;/puS} formula with a dependent clause, setting out the parameters as it were:<br>
<br>
  &lt;jonlu&#39;meH&gt; wo&#39;maj pop tIn law&#39; Hoch tIn puS<br>
  Our Empire&#39;s highest bounty has been placed on his head. (ST5 notes)<br>
<br>
  &lt;tlhutlhmeH&gt; HIq ngeb qaq law&#39; bIQ qaq puS<br>
  Drinking fake ale is better than drinking water. TKW<br>
<br>
  &lt;noH ghoblu&#39;DI&#39;&gt; yay quv law&#39; Hoch quv puS<br>
  In war there is nothing more honorable than victory. TKW<br>
<br>
  &lt;tlhIngan wo&#39; yuQmey chovlu&#39;chugh&gt; Qo&#39;noS potlh law&#39; Hoch potlh puS<br>
  The principal planet of the Klingon Empire, Qo&#39;noS... S27<br>
<br>
If you ignore the phrases in angle brackets, the comparisons become simple.<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
Voragh<br>
Ca&#39;Non Master of the Klingons<br>
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