tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Fri Jun 27 12:12:01 2014
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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] vagh jaj, vagh 'uy' DarSeq je
<div dir="ltr">nIqolay, voragh je Satlho'neS. {law'}, {puS} je lo'meH, DaHjaj jIH val law', wa'Hu' jIH val puS.<div><br></div><div>bI'reng</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Steven Boozer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
bI'reng:<br>
<div class="">< I was wondering about comparatives just last night. Here's my general<br>
< thinking. It's easy when the comparison is a straightforward "This noun<br>
< is more adjective than that noun." For example:<br>
<<br>
< 1. batlh potlh law' yIn potlh puS [TKW]<br>
< Honor is more important than life.<br>
<<br>
< It gets a little more complicated when you want to compare ideas rather<br>
< than just nouns.<br>
<<br>
< 2. QamvIS Hegh qaq law', torvIS yIn qaq puS [TKW]<br>
< Better to die on our feet than live on our knees.<br>
<<br>
< We can dissect this all day, I'm sure. We could see {QamvIS Hegh} and<br>
< {torvIS yIn} as noun phrases, that way they fit the standard [A Q law',<br>
</div>< B Q puS] formula. [....]<br>
<br>
Talking about comparisons... noun phrases in the A and B slots (marked by angle brackets) can be fairly complicated:<br>
<br>
DujvamDaq <tlhIngan nuH tu'lu'bogh> pov law' Hoch pov puS 'ej DujvamDaq<br>
<'op SuvwI' tu'lu'bogh> po' law' <tlhIngan yo' SuvwI' law'> po' puS<br>
It [IKC Pagh] has the best weapons and some of the finest warriors in<br>
the Klingon fleet. S7<br>
<br>
Also note that each comparison in this compound sentence is prefaced by {DujvamDaq} "in this ship". Other examples of using an introductory place stamp (again marked in angle brackets) are:<br>
<br>
<reH latlh qabDaq> qul tuj law' Hoch tuj puS<br>
The fire is always hotter on someone else's face. PK<br>
<br>
<qIbDaq SuvwI''e'> SoH Dun law' Hoch Dun puS<br>
You would be the greatest warrior in the galaxy. ST5<br>
<br>
Another way to compare ideas is to preface the {law'/puS} formula with a dependent clause, setting out the parameters as it were:<br>
<br>
<jonlu'meH> wo'maj pop tIn law' Hoch tIn puS<br>
Our Empire's highest bounty has been placed on his head. (ST5 notes)<br>
<br>
<tlhutlhmeH> HIq ngeb qaq law' bIQ qaq puS<br>
Drinking fake ale is better than drinking water. TKW<br>
<br>
<noH ghoblu'DI'> yay quv law' Hoch quv puS<br>
In war there is nothing more honorable than victory. TKW<br>
<br>
<tlhIngan wo' yuQmey chovlu'chugh> Qo'noS potlh law' Hoch potlh puS<br>
The principal planet of the Klingon Empire, Qo'noS... S27<br>
<br>
If you ignore the phrases in angle brackets, the comparisons become simple.<br>
<br>
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--<br>
Voragh<br>
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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