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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] ghargh Doq, HuD je -- wej vI' wa'

Robyn Stewart ([email protected]) [KLI Member] [Hol po'wI']



Step back a couple of paces and don't try to translate every sentence in the
way they are set up in the English. Note the information conveyed in the
section, and convey it. don't worry about the number of sentences and the
exact order, and never try to copy the type of grammatical constructions
English uses. De''e' yIQum.

Comments inline.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gaerfindel [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: June 22, 2014 20:17
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] ghargh Doq, HuD je -- wej vI' wa'

This part of the tale is one that actually goes between {wa'} and {cha'},
but is much, much, MUCH harder to render, so I'm going to go slowly:

{yuQ tIng 'evDaq, *Westeros* Soch Sepmey tu'lu}

"In the western lands of the world are the Seven Kingdoms of Westeros."

Given that the western part of a planet is damned arbitrary, consider
simplifying the directions. Klingon does not have the concept of something
being "in" in the west. You can only be west of something or go west. 

{bIQ 'ev tIng 'evDaq veng'e' Dun rentta' 'ej chenmoHta' 'oH}

* I'm not familiar with the show. Is the southeast sea not actually
southeast of the town?
* What is the subject of the verbs in this sentence?  
* Please peruse the final section of TKD 4.4.
* ren not rent

"In the southeast sea was designed and built a great city."

{ta' Seppu'ghach pong 'oH}

That's a hideously ugly name in a hideously formatted sentence. I can't find
any evidence that "Landing" in that sense means Seppu'ghach ("Bredness"?).
This page http://www.englishforums.com/English/KingsLanding/zdqwv/post.htm
suggests it means what most people would assume it means. Why don't you go
with vergh, the way most people would interpret the English?

Now have another look at TKD 6.3 and 4.2.5, decided what you meant, and
rewrite the sentence. 

"It is named 'King's Landing'."


~quljIb

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